We Love Mass Meditation, International Golden Age Group and Prepare for Change Japan Official had organized an interview with Cobra to go through various topics
我们爱集体冥想，国际黄金时代团队和准备转变日本官方组织了对柯博拉的采访，以了解各种主题。
In this interview, Cobra answered many questions on the current situation and on the Ascension Plan.
在这次采访中，柯博拉回答了许多关于当前形势和升天计划的问题。
Here is the recording of the interview on our YouTube channel:
这里是我们YouTube频道上的采访录音。
2022 Cobra Interview by WLMM & IGAG & PFC Japan Official (Part 1)
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Special thanks to the International Golden Age Group and PFC Japan Official for their great support on this interview.
特别感谢国际黄金时代团队和日本准备转变对本次采访的大力支持。
Below is the transcript of the interview:
以下为是次访问的内容:
Hoshino: Hello everyone. Today is September 16th. My name is Hoshino. And I'm here again with my great friends, Patrick and Jedi, who are the representatives of the Intentional Golden Age Group, as well as Terry-san from Japan PFC official. So welcome Patrick and Jedi.
星野:大家好。今天是9月16日。我叫星野。我和我的好朋友，帕特里克和绝地，他们是意向黄金时代组织的代表，还有来自日本准备转变官方的泰瑞先生。欢迎帕特里克和绝地。
Patrick: Hello.
帕特里克：大家好。
Jedi: Hello, this is Jedi
Jedi:你好，我是绝地
Patrick: And this is Patrick.
帕特里克：这是帕特里克。
Hoshino: And welcome Terry-san.
星野:欢迎泰瑞先生。
Terry: Hi. Hi. Hello.
泰瑞:嗨，嗨，你好。
Hoshino: And today we are very happy to interview Cobra again on various topics. So welcome Cobra.
星野:今天我们很高兴再次就各种话题采访柯博拉，所以欢迎柯博拉。
Cobra: Hello. Hello everybody.
柯博拉:大家好。大家好。
Hoshino: And without any further ado, I will let Terry-san to ask the questions.
星野:不要再多说了，我会让泰瑞先生来问问题。
Part 1: Situation Update
第一部分: 情况更新
Terry: Okay. Thank you very much. And there was a very exciting update today on The Portal regarding the implant and biochip removal. It appears to be the first major intervention by [the] Light Forces to the surface of the planet. How did it become possible at this moment?
泰瑞:好的。非常感谢。今天在门户网站上有一个非常激动人心的更新关于植入物和生物芯片的移除。这似乎是光之力对地球表面的第一次重大干预。此时此刻它是如何变得可能的？
Cobra: The Light Forces were carrying out various operations in the last few years and coming closer and closer to the surface, and now they have managed to become so close that they are able, with their technology, to start clearing the implants.
柯博拉：光明势力在过去的几年里进行了各种各样的行动并且越来越接近地表，现在他们已经设法变得如此接近以至于他们能够利用他们的技术开始清除植入物。
Terry: So does the technology mean Mjolnir technology?
泰瑞:那么这项技术是否意味着 Mjolnir 技术？
Cobra: Yes.
柯博拉：是的。
Terry: Okay, great. So how do the implant and biochip removal process work practically? Will it be an all-at-once removal to all of the persons using the quantum cannon technologies on the surface, or rather on individualized process, depending on the contamination levels of a person?
泰瑞:好的，很好。那么植入物和生物芯片的移除过程是如何实际工作的呢？根据一个人的污染程度，这是一次性清除所有使用量子炮技术的表面人员，还是更确切地说是个性化清除？
Cobra: It'll be a planetary process and it is already a planetary process. So quantum cannon technologies are bombarding the surface of the planet. They are bombarding actually with their energy fields, the implants, and biochips in every member of the surface population. And what they're doing is they're starting to remove the black holes in the implants. That is a very tricky and challenging process, but it is already taking place and it'll be the same for everybody. The whole implant and biochip network has to be removed.
柯博拉：这将是一个全球性的过程，而且已经是一个全球性的过程。量子炮技术正在轰炸地球表面。他们实际上是用他们的能量场，植入物，和生物芯片来轰炸地球表面的每一个成员。他们开始移除植入物中的黑洞。这是一个非常棘手和具有挑战性的过程，但是它已经开始了，对每个人来说都是一样的。整个植入体和生物芯片网络必须被移除。
Terry: Okay. So even though it may be just for everybody at the same time, but will the length of the removal and the deprogramming vary depending on a person?
泰瑞:好的。所以，即使它可能只是为每个人在同一时间，但删除和反编程的长度会因人而异吗？
Cobra: Not very much, I mean individual reactions to the removal will be different, but the process is ongoing at the same time for everybody.
柯博拉： 不是很多，我的意思是每个人对移除的反应会不同，但是这个过程对每个人来说都是同一时间进行的。
Terry: I see. That's interesting. Okay. Next question. The Light Forces expect there will be a massive spiritual awakening of the surface population once all biochips and implants are removed. How will this wave of awakening benefit Lightworkers and Lightwarriors in terms of our daily life and our Ascension process?
泰瑞:我明白了。有意思。好吧。下个问题。光明势力预计，一旦所有的生物芯片和植入物被移除，地表人口将会出现大规模的精神觉醒。就我们的日常生活和提升过程而言，这股觉醒浪潮将如何惠及光之工作者和光之战士？
Cobra: Yes. when we come to the closure of this process, when the implants and biochips are mostly gone, individual lives of the Lightworkers and Lightwarriors will become better, lighter, less stressful, less negativity, less darkness, less attacks, and life will again, after so much time, become a little bit more enjoyable.
柯博拉：是的。当我们来到这个过程的终点，当植入物和生物芯片几乎消失的时候，光之工作者和光之战士的个人生活将变得更好，更轻，更少的压力，更少的消极，更少的黑暗，更少的攻击，生活将再次，在这么长的时间之后，变得更加愉快。
Terry: Okay. So that means that their Ascension process may be easier?
泰瑞:好的。那么这意味着他们的升天过程可能会更容易？
Cobra: Yes.
柯博拉： 是的。
Terry: Okay. Interesting. Have the level of primary anomaly and subquantum anomaly reduced in the area below the Low Earth Orbit?
泰瑞:好的。有意思。低地球轨道以下区域的主要异常和亚量子异常水平是否有所降低？
Cobra: To a degree, yes, but main reduction is expected at the same time as this operation of clearing the implants proceeds.
柯博拉： 在一定程度上是的，但是主要的减少是在清除植入物的同时进行的。
Terry: I see. Okay. And what is the relationship between the Veil and today, you also mentioned the Kerr metric space time distortion anomaly around the surface of the planet?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。那么面纱和今天的关系是什么呢，你也提到了 Kerr 度量时空扭曲在行星表面的异常现象？
Cobra: This space time distortion anomaly actually changes the structure of space time around the Earth and that distorted space time makes it easier for the technologies of the dark forces to operate and to maintain the Veil. Without that anomaly, the dark forces would not be able to use their technologies and the Veil would be removed.
柯博拉:这种时空扭曲异常实际上改变了地球周围的时空结构，扭曲的时空使得黑暗力量的技术更容易操作和维持面纱。如果没有这种异常，黑暗势力就不能使用他们的技术，面纱就会消失。
Terry: Oh, I see. So that means the Veil is the aim and the Kerr metrics spare time distortion is a kind of supporting tool.
泰瑞:哦，我明白了。这就意味着面纱是我们的目标，而 Kerr 度量空闲时间失真是一种辅助工具。
Cobra: Yes. In a way. Yes.
柯博拉： 是的，在某种程度上是的。
Terry: Okay, great. So in the latest update you mentioned an ancient dark entity called the Lurker. Is it very dangerous? What is the relationship of "the Lurker" with the Archons and the Chimera?
泰瑞:好的，很好。在最新的更新中，你提到了一个古老的黑暗实体，叫做潜伏者。它很危险吗？"潜伏者"与执政官和奇美拉有什么关系？
Cobra: It is not very dangerous at this point, because much of this has been dissolved already. This is a very different type of entity. It's actually a quantum, subquantum entity. It's a different type of consciousness than any other entity you are probably aware of. I would say the most close, the closest example to it would be the Yaldabaoth entity, which has been removed already. The Archons and the Chimera, they actually some of them worship the Lurker and they see it as a source of their evil.
柯博拉:在这一点上不是很危险，因为大部分已经溶解了。这是一个非常不同类型的实体。它实际上是一个量子，亚量子实体。它是一种不同于你可能意识到的任何其他实体的意识。我想说最接近，最接近它的例子应该是 Yaldabaoth 实体，它已经被移除了。执政官和奇美拉实际上他们中的一些人崇拜潜行者他们将其视为邪恶的源头。
Terry: Oh, I see. So does that means that the Lurker is superior to Archons and Chimera?
泰瑞:哦，我明白了。那是不是意味着潜行者比执政官和奇美拉更优秀？
Cobra: In a way. Yes, because this entity has been alive for the whole cosmic cycle and actually originates from the previous cosmic cycle. So... But it's a completely different type of consciousness. It is a completely different thing. You know, it's not something that most people would be able to understand.
柯博拉:某种程度上。是的，因为这个实体在整个宇宙周期中都是活着的，而且实际上起源于之前的宇宙周期。但这是一种完全不同的意识。是完全不同的东西。你知道，这不是大多数人能够理解的。
Terry: I see. Okay. Thank you. As the Lurker has survived the previous cosmic cycle and continue to exist until this day, does its existence means that the dark forces have already existed since the previous cosmic cycle, while the Archangels who fell into Primary Anomaly 8 million years ago, are the new dark entities in the cosmic cycle?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。谢谢。既然潜行者在之前的宇宙周期中存活了下来并且一直存在到今天，那么它的存在是否意味着黑暗力量在之前的宇宙周期中就已经存在了，而在800万年前坠入原始异常的大天使们，是宇宙周期中新的黑暗实体呢？
Cobra: No, darkness did not exist before 8 million years. The Lurker existed as a pure potentiality. It was not a manifested consciousness of darkness. That only started 8 million years ago.
柯博拉： 不，黑暗在800万年前并不存在。潜伏者的存在是一种纯粹的潜力。它不是一种显现出来的黑暗意识。那只是800万年前开始的。
Terry: Oh, I see. Okay. Understand. So it existed before 8 million years ago as just as a potential. I see. Do the Pleiadians know why most key people in positive militaries are against the liberation Plan?
泰瑞:哦，我明白了。好吧。明白。所以它在800万年前就存在了。我明白了。昴宿星人知道为什么大多数积极军事的关键人物反对解放计划吗？
Cobra: The main reason is because of the implants and all the programming and the selfishness.
柯博拉:主要原因是植入物，所有的程序和自私。
Terry: I see. So that means after the operation removing the implant, do you think that those people in positive militaries' attitudes may change?
泰瑞:我明白了。也就是说，在移除植入物的手术后，你认为那些积极参军的人的态度会改变吗？
Cobra: Some of them might change, but at this point it is impossible to predict how surface population will react to this.
柯博拉：他们中的一些人可能会改变，但在这一点上是不可能预测地表人口将如何反应这一点。
Terry: I see. Okay. Understand. Thank you. If those key people do not agree with the liberation Plan, how will the Light Forces proceed with the mass arrest? Will they carry on with the arrest operations by themselves, or wait until the positive militaries remove every potentially compromised member within their ranks?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。明白。谢谢。如果这些关键人物不同意解放计划，光明势力将如何进行大规模逮捕？他们会继续自己的逮捕行动，还是等待积极的军队清除他们队伍中每一个潜在的妥协成员？
Cobra: This is a confidential information at this point.
柯博拉:目前这是一个机密信息。
Terry: Okay. Understood. Thank you. Do the Light Forces think Ukraine can become another Afghanistan and drag Russia's economy and politics into chaos?
泰瑞:好的。明白。谢谢。光明势力认为乌克兰会变成另一个阿富汗，把俄罗斯的经济和政治拖入混乱吗？
Cobra: Potentially yes. If this conflict escalates in the new world war, which is unlikely, but still possible. It'll not be the same situation as is in Afghanistan, but there is certain potential there that things can get a little bit more complicated.
柯博拉：可能是的。如果这场冲突在新的世界大战中升级，这是不太可能的，但仍然是可能的。情况不会像在阿富汗那样，但是有一定的可能性，事情会变得更加复杂一点。
Terry: I see. Okay. Thank you. The next question regarding Queen's death. The Queen (Elizabeth II) passed away on September 8th. In terms of the liberation Plan, what is the view of the Light Forces on her who has the longest reign in modern history?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。谢谢。关于奎恩之死的下一个问题。女王(伊丽莎白二世)于9月8日去世。在解放计划方面，对于现代历史上统治时间最长的女王，光明势力的看法是什么？
Cobra: It is not the highest purpose to answer this question.
柯博拉：这不是回答这个问题的最高目的。
Terry: I see. Okay. And because most of the general population thinks that the Queen is simply a symbol of stability to the Commonwealth of Nations. However, some alternative media claim that she was also the head of the Committee of 300. Therefore, some people think that she was controlling world politics and economy behind the scenes. So, maybe, this may be, again the confidential, and you may not tell, but did the Queen really have the power to influence the geopolitics around the world?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。因为大多数普通民众认为女王只是国家英联邦稳定的象征。然而，一些另类媒体声称她也是300人委员会的主席。因此，一些人认为她在幕后操纵着世界政治和经济。所以，也许，这可能是，再次机密，你可能不会告诉，但女王真的有权力，影响世界各地的地缘政治？
Cobra: She had certain amount of power, but she was not the key player in making decisions.
柯博拉:她有一定的权力，但她不是决策的关键角色。
Terry: I see. Okay. Thank you very much. When the Queen's death was announced, a double rainbow appeared right above the Buckingham palace. Did this double rainbow have an esoteric meaning in this circumstance?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。非常感谢。当女王去世的消息宣布时，一道双重彩虹出现在白金汉宫的正上方。在这种情况下，这种双重彩虹有什么深奥的意义吗？
Cobra: Actually that is an opportunity for the surface population to make better choices, but most likely this opportunity will not be used in the right way, because the level of consciousness is not high.
柯博拉：事实上，这是地表人口做出更好选择的一个机会，但是很可能这个机会不会被正确地利用，因为意识水平并不高。
Terry: I see. Okay. Thank you. Have the Light Forces made any arrangement for Shinzo Abe and the Queen regarding their souls?
泰瑞:我明白了。好的。谢谢。光明势力有没有为安倍晋三和女王安排灵魂方面的事情？
Cobra: Yes.
柯博拉：是的。
Terry: They did. Okay, great. (Yeah). So Earth's magnetic north pole has reportedly been shifting already. So does it mean that the pole shift has gradually started?
泰瑞:是的。好的，很好。(耶)。据报道，地磁北极已经开始移动。那么这是否意味着极移已经逐渐开始呢？
Cobra: The magnetic polar shift has gently started already in the 19th century and it is currently accelerating.
柯博拉：磁极移动在19世纪就已经开始了，现在正在加速。
Terry: So maybe this relates to the next question. But if so, would geographic changes such as the sea level getting higher may occur even before the final big tsunami?
泰瑞:也许这和下一个问题有关。但是如果是这样的话，海平面上升这样的地理变化会不会在最后的大海啸之前就发生呢？
Cobra: What is expected before the final polar shift is increased volcanic activity and earthquakes.
柯博拉：在最后的极移之前，我们预计火山活动和地震会增加。
Terry: Yeah, but what about before that? But already, so that means there are some...
泰瑞:是的，但是在那之前呢? 但是已经发生了，那就意味着有一些..。
Cobra: That Is expected before the polar shift.
柯博拉:预计在极移之前。
Terry: Oh, I see. Okay. So that means the... Okay. That's very interesting. In the Planetary Situation Update on June 23rd, it is stated as follows: "The Light Forces have managed to infiltrate the Chimera chain of command undetected and are now corroding the Chimera structure from within. Most of the negative scenario for the planet have collapsed, but there [is] still one quite improbable, but very dangerous scenario that has yet to be resolved." So based on today's update, can we say that one dangerous scenario has been resolved?
泰瑞:哦，我明白了。好吧。那就是说...这很有趣。在6月23日的行星形势更新中，它是这样陈述的: "光明势力已经设法在不被发现的情况下渗透到奇美拉的指挥链中，现在正从内部腐蚀着奇美拉的结构。地球上的大多数负面情况已经崩溃，但仍然有一种不太可能但非常危险的情况有待解决。"那么根据今天的更新，我们能说一个危险的情况已经解决了吗？
Cobra: Not yet.
柯博拉：还没有。
Terry: Oh, I see. Okay. Understand. Thank you very much. This is the end of my questions. Then next one from Jedi.
泰瑞:哦，我明白了。好吧。明白。非常感谢。我的问题到此为止。接下来是绝地的问题。
Jedi: Okay. Thank you, Terry. All right. You mentioned in Divine Intervention Activation Report that "After the critical mass of signatures was reached, the Pleiadians have communicated that the legal basis for their intervention on the surface of the planet is now established." Does it mean that the Pleiadians can now legally intervene in the surface situation, but this does not extend to other civilization in the Galactic Confederation?
Jedi:好的。谢谢你，泰瑞。好的。你在神圣介入冥想中提到"在签名达到临界质量之后，昴宿星人已经传达了他们在地球表面进行干预的法律基础现在已经建立起来了。"这是否意味着昴宿星人现在可以合法地干预地表的情况，但是这并不延伸到银河联邦的其他文明？
Cobra: That is not correct. All civilizations in the Galactic Confederation now have a legal basis to intervene.
柯博拉:这是不正确的。所有的文明在银河联邦现在有一个法律基础，干预。
Jedi: Oh, yes. Okay. Did the Galactic Confederation in general support the idea that the Pleiadians sought their legal basis from the surface population through meditation and petition campaign?
Jedi:哦，是的。好的。银河联邦是否普遍支持昴宿星人通过冥想和请愿活动从地表人口中寻求合法基础的观点？
Cobra: Yes, of course.
柯博拉：是的，当然。
Jedi: Oh yeah. Okay, next. Have they recognized the signatures which exceeded the critical mass as the signal from the surface population, or just from starseeds?
Jedi:哦，是的。好了，下一个。他们是否认识到超过临界质量的信号是来自地表种群的信号，还是仅仅来自星际种子的信号？
Cobra: Actually both. It's because starseeds are also part of the surface population. So it is a valid... The signatures were valid and they are seen as a collective choice of the surface population.
柯博拉：实际上两者都有。这是因为星际种子也是地表种群的一部分。所以这是有效的... 这些特征是有效的，它们被看作是地表种群的集体选择。
Jedi: Okay, good. As our petition was mostly signed by starseeds, some might think it did not actually reflect the overall free will of the surface population. Was it possible for the Galactic Confederation to ignore the result of our petition even if the dark forces did not interfere with our petition campaign using hacking and other negative technologies?
Jedi:好的，很好。由于我们的请愿书大部分是由星际种子签署的，有些人可能会认为它实际上并没有反映出地表居民的整体自由意志。即使黑暗势力没有利用黑客技术和其他负面技术干涉我们的请愿活动，银河联邦是否有可能无视我们请愿的结果？
Cobra: This petition is legally binding for the Galactic Confederation. So the Galactic Confederation must intervene as soon as it is safe. And the first people who will be contacted will be starseeds. So those who voted for this intervention are the first who are going to get it.
柯博拉：这份请愿书对银河联邦有法律约束力。所以银河联邦一旦安全就必须介入。第一个被联系的人会是星际种子。所以那些投票支持干预的人，是第一批得到干预的人。
Jedi: Okay, good. Next, intervention in the surface world is a very serious matter. Had the members of the Galactic Confederation ever consider that they should try to inform all the surface population and then give every man a chance to vote?
Jedi:很好。接下来，介入地表世界是一件非常严肃的事情。银河联邦的成员们有没有考虑过他们应该通知所有的地表居民，然后给每个人投票的机会？
Cobra: That can actually happen after a certain point after the Event, when there will be enough understanding of what the Galactic Confederation is. There might be a planetary vote of the future involvement of the surface population with the Galactic Confederation. That is actually planned to happen at a certain point.
柯博拉:这实际上可以发生在事件发生后的某个特定时间点，那时将有足够的理解什么是银河联邦。可能会有一次行星投票，决定未来地表人口是否会加入银河联盟。这实际上是计划在某个时候发生的。
Jedi: Okay. In the August 15th update, you mentioned that "The surface Lightworker grid has almost collapsed." What does it mean?
Jedi:好的。在8月15日的更新中，你提到"表面的光之网格几乎崩溃了。"这是什么意思？
Cobra: It means that the Lightworkers were not willing or not able to hold the Light anymore. And the critical mass of Light that is necessary for the surface had not been maintained anymore. So the Light Forces have managed to create an alternative solution for this problem.
柯博拉:这意味着光之工作者不愿意或不能够再持有光了。表面所需要的临界质量的光已经不能维持了。所以光明势力成功地为这个问题找到了另一种解决方案。
Jedi: Okay. Was its collapse due to the severe attack by the dark forces on the Lightworkers causing lower vibration among them?
Jedi:好的。它的崩溃是否是由于黑暗力量对光之工作者的严重攻击导致了他们之间较低的振动？
Cobra: There were two factors involved. The first factor were those attacks, which have severely damaged the ability of the Lightworkers to hold the Light. And the other one was the wrong, selfish, and stupid decisions of the Lightworkers, which were behaving not in alignment with the higher purpose.
柯博拉：有两个因素。第一个因素是那些攻击，它们严重损害了光之工作者持有光的能力。另一个是光之工作者的错误、自私和愚蠢的决定，他们的行为与更高的目标不一致。
Jedi: Okay. Yes. Recently a man won the first prize in an art competition with his AI-assisted painting. Some artists are worried that AI might someday take away their jobs. Do positive ET races use AI to assist their art creation?
Jedi:好的。是的。最近，一名男子凭借他的人工智能辅助绘画作品在一次艺术竞赛中获得了一等奖。一些艺术家担心有一天人工智能可能会夺走他们的工作。积极的外星人种族使用人工智能来协助他们的艺术创作吗？
Cobra: Actually AI is not able to generate the highest level of art. AI can generate generally pleasing and aesthetic form of art, but not the masterpieces. This is not possible. (Oh yes) Only a being with a contact with the soul can manifest masterpieces. (Yes) So some average or relatively good artists might lose their jobs, but the best artists will never lose their jobs
柯博拉：事实上，人工智能不能产生最高水平的艺术。人工智能可以产生一般令人愉悦和美感的艺术形式，但不能产生杰作。这是不可能的。(Oh yes)只有与灵魂接触的存在才能显现杰作。(是的)所以一些普通或相对优秀的艺术家可能会失去他们的工作，但最好的艺术家永远不会失去他们的工作
Jedi: Okay. if so, how do they strike a balance between the convenience brought by AI and their originality?
Jedi: 好。如果是这样，他们如何在人工智能带来的便利和他们的原创性之间取得平衡？
Cobra: Simply by using the higher guidance that all of the positive races have.
柯博拉:简单地通过使用更高的指导，所有正面的种族都有。
Jedi: Oh, yes, that's good. Can you reveal any further information on the "Alexandrian women", the women who moved from Vipava valley to Alexandria at the turn of the 20th century?
Jedi:哦，是的，很好。你能透露更多关于"亚历山大妇女"的信息吗? 这些妇女在20世纪之交从 Vipava 山谷移居到亚历山大？
Cobra: Okay. They were just looking for opportunity for a job and they were moving to Alexandria to basically babysit in the higher upper level of Egyptian society. And that was an interesting interaction because it brought a certain combination of Goddess energy, which was not previously present.
柯博拉：好的。他们只是在寻找工作的机会，然后他们搬到亚历山大里亚，基本上是为了在埃及上层社会照顾孩子。这是一个有趣的互动，因为它带来了女神能量的某种组合，这是以前不存在的。
Jedi: Okay. Okay. Is it now safe for you to reveal the classified aspect of the SpaceX CRS-24 mission?
Jedi:好的，现在你可以透露 SpaceX crs-24任务的机密信息了吗？
Cobra: Yes. Certain Cintamani stones were sent in orbit and then safely landed later, about one month later.
柯博拉:
是的。某些如意宝珠被送入轨道，然后安全着陆后，大约一个月后。
Part 2: Ascension Plan
第二部分: 扬升计划
Jedi: Wow, good. The followings are [questions about the] amazing Ascension plan. First one. How can we explain individual and planetary Ascension with modern science?
Jedi:哇，很好。以下是关于这个神奇的升天计划的问题。第一个。我们如何用现代科学来解释个人和行星的提升？
Cobra: Science, at the present state of development, does not even understand the existence of the etheric plane. So it is not possible to describe Ascension with the science at the current public state of development.
柯博拉:在目前的发展状态下，科学甚至不能理解以太平面的存在。因此，在当前的公共发展状态下，用科学来描述扬升是不可能的。
Jedi: Yes, that's right. What is the relationship between chakras, Merkaba, and Ascension?
Jedi:是的，没错。脉轮，梅尔卡巴和升天之间是什么关系？
Cobra: Chakras are energy vortexes in the human energy fields that are transmitting various frequencies of Light. Merkaba is the Light body, which is a vehicle that we use to achieve our Ascension, and Ascension process is a process which happens when we are able to remove all anomaly and all blockages from our energy field. And then when we reach a super conductivity of the Light body, we ascend.
柯博拉:脉轮是人类能量场中的能量漩涡，它传输不同频率的光。梅尔卡巴是光体，它是我们用来实现扬升的载体，而扬升过程是一个当我们能够从我们的能量场中移除所有异常和所有障碍时发生的过程。然后当我们达到光体的超级传导性时，我们提升。
Jedi: Also that means for Ascension, we need [the] perfect chakra [and] Merkaba condition. Yeah?
Jedi:这也意味着升天，我们需要完美的脉轮和梅尔卡巴条件？
Cobra: Yes.
柯博拉：是的。
Jedi: Okay, good. Next, it is said that the Light Forces have a device known as the Ascension Chamber, which can boost the human ascension process. Can you describe its appearance and the principle?
Jedi:好的，很好。接下来，据说光明势力有一个叫做扬升室的装置，可以促进人类的扬升过程。你能描述一下它的外观和原理吗？
Cobra: Okay. There are two aspects of this device. The first one is purification and healing chamber, which removes and heals the obstacles. And then is the proper Ascension chamber, which activates the Kundalini energy and something called the electric fire. So it means that a very strong, highly charged energy flows through the energy body - no through the Light body, through the Merkaba body and it activates it. So that is a highly advanced technology, which is used by Ascended Beings throughout the galaxy.
柯博拉：好的。这个装置有两个方面。第一个是净化和治疗室，它可以清除和治疗障碍。然后是正确的升天室，它可以激活昆达里尼能量，还有一种叫做电火的东西。因此，这意味着一个非常强大的，高度带电的能量流经能量体——不，通过光体，通过梅尔卡巴光体，并激活它。这是一项高度先进的技术，被整个银河系的升天存有们所使用。
Jedi: Wow, that's amazing. If I am qualified for the First Wave of Ascension, can I reach the state of Ascension if I use the Ascension Chamber right after the First Contact?
Jedi:哇，太神奇了。如果我有资格进行第一波的升天，那么如果我在第一次接触后立即使用升天室，我能达到升天的状态吗？
Cobra: Okay. Some rare individuals might achieve their Ascension even before the First Wave using that Ascension Chamber, but most people that will go in the First Wave will do this as a group, as a planetary group process at the same time when the time is right.
柯博拉：好的。一些罕见的个体甚至可能在第一波之前就利用扬升室达到他们的扬升，但是大多数将在第一波中前往的人将作为一个群体，作为一个行星群体，在适当的时候同时进行这个过程。
Jedi: Okay, good. Next, as the Light Forces have highly advanced spiritual technology, will most of the surface populations still have to undergo years of training to reach Ascension?
Jedi:好的，很好。接下来，由于光明势力拥有高度先进的精神技术，大多数地表居民仍然需要经过多年的训练才能达到扬升吗？
Cobra: Most of the surface population needs lifetimes, hundreds, and thousands of years to reach Ascension on other planets. They are not ready.
柯博拉：大多数地表人口需要寿命，数百年，甚至数千年才能到达其他行星的扬升。他们还没有准备好。
Jedi: Okay.
Jedi:好的。
Cobra: Regardless of the level of technology, human consciousness is human consciousness and that needs to be transformed from within. Technology can help, but real work needs to be done by people going through the Ascension process. So the percentage of surface population that will undergo true Ascension process will be very little, very low.
柯博拉:不管科技水平如何，人类的意识就是人类的意识，需要从内部进行转化。技术可以提供帮助，但真正的工作需要人们通过扬升过程来完成。因此，经历真正的扬升过程的地表人口比例将非常小，非常低。
Jedi: Okay. Next, it is said that sexual climax is the moment that human gets the closest to God. Is it appropriate to describe Ascension as an eternal non-stop orgasm?
Jedi:好的。接下来，据说性高潮是人类最接近上帝的时刻。将扬升描述为永恒的不停止的高潮合适吗？
Cobra: Actually, the state of consciousness after Ascension can be described as an eternal non-stop orgasm.
柯博拉:实际上，扬升后的意识状态可以被描述为永恒的不停止的高潮。
Jedi: Oh yeah. Okay. Before we reach Ascension, do we have to experience physical death and resurrection as Jesus did?
Jedi:好吧，在我们升天之前，我们必须像耶稣一样经历肉体的死亡和复活吗？
Cobra: No.
柯博拉：不。
Jedi: Okay. Next, if we consider the current conscious level of the surface population, is there a minimum age limit for join[ing] the collective Ascension?
Jedi:好的。接下来，如果我们考虑目前地表人口的意识水平，是否有加入集体升天的最低年龄限制？
Cobra: No.
柯博拉：不。
Jedi: Wow, good. Okay. This is my last one. Women in their mid-term and full-time pregnancies have two or even more souls in their bodies. Can all of these souls join the collective Ascension?
Jedi:哇，很好。好的。这是我最后一个了。妇女在她们的中期和全职怀孕有两个或更多的灵魂在她们的身体。所有这些灵魂都能加入集体扬升吗？
Cobra: Okay. This is possible. It's a bit complicated, but it is possible.
柯博拉：好的。这是可能的。这有点复杂，但是是可能的。
Jedi: Wow. <laugh> Good news.
Jedi:好消息。
Cobra: There will be very few cases like this.
柯博拉:像这样的例子子很少见。
Jedi: Wow. Okay. Would it be better for them to wait until they recover from their delivery?
Jedi:好吧，他们是不是应该等到，他们完成交付后才能恢复？
Cobra: Basically, when the Ascension wave hits, it hits, and those who are ready will go, those, those who are not ready will not go.
柯博拉:基本上，当扬升波到达时，它就会到达，那些准备好的人就会离开，那些，那些没有准备好的人就不会离开。
Jedi: Okay. Yeah. Okay. Is Patrick's turn now.
Jedi:好了，现在轮到帕特里克了。
Patrick: Okay. Now for my turn, I will start with this question. Will human gain superpowers like teleportation, manifestation out of thin air, or element manipulation as soon as we reach Ascension?
帕特里克：好的。现在轮到我了，我将从这个问题开始。一旦我们到达扬升，人类是否会获得超能力，比如瞬间移动，凭空显现，或者元素操控？
Cobra: When humans reach Ascension, they will be given the key, the tool, how to use those powers, and then they will be trained how to use them. And that training process will take some time, but from the start, they will have this basic ability that will be then perfected as time goes by.
柯博拉:当人类达到扬升，他们将被给予关键，工具，如何使用这些力量，然后他们将被训练如何使用它们。这个训练过程需要一些时间，但是从一开始，他们就会拥有这种基本的能力，随着时间的推移，这种能力会逐渐完善。
Patrick: Okay. Next, good. Next one. If a person's physical body can only connect with one single I AM Presence, how should we analyze Multiple Personality Disorder according to the concept of Soul?
帕特里克：好。下一个，很好。下一个。如果一个人的身体只能和一个"我是存在的"连接起来，我们应该如何根据灵魂的概念来分析多重人格障碍？
Cobra: It is very simple. There is one soul, one I AM Presence, but whenever a trauma happens, part of the personality structure splits away from the core personality. And that process can take many times, but there is one I AM presence, one incarnated soul that has all those different personalities and the healing process is actually process of integrating those personalities with a core personality, which is the original personality directly connected with the incarnated soul.
柯博拉：很简单。有一个灵魂，一个我是存在，但是每当创伤发生时，人格结构的一部分就会脱离核心人格。这个过程可能需要很多次，但是有一个我是存在的，一个具有所有不同人格的化身灵魂，治疗过程实际上是将这些人格与一个核心人格结合的过程，这个核心人格就是与化身灵魂直接相连的原始人格。
Patrick: Oh, very good. Okay. Next one. If someone implants a personality that is spiritually advanced into himself through deep hypnosis or fecal microbiota transplant, is it possible for him to train himself to become a sage or even very close to Ascension before the Event? If not, please explain why.
帕特里克：哦，很好。好的。下一个。如果有人通过深度催眠或粪便微生物移植植入一个在精神上得到提升的人格，他是否有可能在事件发生之前训练自己成为圣人，甚至非常接近扬升？如果不能，请解释原因。
Cobra: Yes. All that can be cleared
柯博拉：是的，所有可以清理的地方
Patrick: Really. Okay. That's good. Next one you mentioned that in the Ascension Plan Update that about 2000 people will be ready to ascend in the first wave of Ascension. Will those people ascend separately in different times and places? Or they will be assembled at a designated place on a specific date?
帕特里克：真的。好吧。很好。接下来，你提到在升天计划更新中，大约有2000人将准备好在第一波升天中提升。这些人会在不同的时间和地点分别扬升吗？或者他们会在特定的日期聚集在特定的地方？
Cobra: There will be an Ascension wave, which is similar to galactic pulse, and everybody will be taken from their own location, teleported to the motherships, and on those motherships, they will undergo the Ascension process itself in the Ascension Chambers.
柯博拉:将会有一个扬升波，类似于银河脉冲，每个人都会被带离自己的位置，传送到母舰上，在那些母舰上，他们将在扬升室中经历扬升过程本身。
Patrick: Ah, I got it. Thank you. The next one, will those people be able to ascend beyond the fifth dimension if they have a compatible consciousness level?
帕特里克：啊，我知道了。谢谢。下一个问题，如果这些人拥有一个兼容的意识水平，他们能够扬升到第五维度以上吗？
Cobra: This will still take some time, but yes.
柯博拉：这仍然需要一些时间，但是是的。
Patrick: Oh, very good. So next one, will humanity still be able to evolve after the Ascension?
帕特里克：哦，很好。那么下一个问题，人类在升天之后还能进化吗？
Cobra: Yes, of course.
柯博拉：是的，当然。
Patrick: Okay. So next one, as the Light Forces have already built two Dyson spheres separately around the Sun and the Earth, can they adjust the Evacuation schedule according to the post-Event developments?
帕特里克：好的。那么下一个问题，因为光明势力已经在太阳和地球周围分别建造了两个戴森球体，他们能根据事件后的发展情况调整撤离时间表吗？
Cobra: Basically, it'll be a combination of cosmic cycles, Galactic Sun activity, and how the overall plan proceeds. So, the decision to make the Evacuation will be based on the conditions about the polar shift and everything will be aligned just perfectly. When the time is right, everything will happen.
柯博拉：基本上，这将是宇宙周期，银河系太阳活动，以及整个计划如何进行的结合。所以，撤离的决定将基于极移的条件，一切都会完美地排列。当时机成熟，一切都会发生。
Patrick: Oh, okay. [Another] one, during the Evacuation, would the surface population have to go on the mothership empty-handed? Can they bring... Can we bring a few things when we leave the Earth?
帕特里克：好的。还有一个问题，在疏散过程中，地表人口会不会空手上母舰？他们能带... 我们离开地球时能带点东西吗？
Cobra: At this stage of the plan, it has been decided that they will need to leave everything behind. (Okay) But this is still an open question. This will still be discussed in the future.
柯博拉:在计划的这个阶段，已经决定他们需要把一切都抛在脑后。(好的)但这仍然是一个悬而未决的问题。这个问题以后还会讨论。
Patrick: Okay. Very good. So next one, why would the Light Forces insist on relocating the surface population to the Pleiades? Can we simply just move to the Agarthan underground kingdom, the Moon, Mars, or other planets in our solar system after the Evacuation?
帕特里克：好的。非常好。那么下一个问题，为什么光明势力坚持将地表人口迁移到昴宿星？我们能不能在撤离之后直接搬到阿加森的地下王国，月球，火星，或者太阳系里的其他行星？
Cobra: It simply that surface population has been so adjusted to the life on the surface. They need a planet with habitable surface and Earth is the only planet in the solar system with habitable surface. And since it'll be upgraded to the next step of the evolution, human beings will no longer be suitable to be here. So, they have to be relocated to a similar planet in the Pleiades.
柯博拉：很简单，地表人口已经适应了地表的生活。他们需要一个有可居住表面的行星，而地球是太阳系中唯一一个有可居住表面的行星。由于它将被升级到进化的下一步，人类将不再适合在这里生存。所以，他们必须被重新安置到昴宿星团的一个相似的星球上。
Patrick: Ah, okay. So, after the Evacuation, can the surface population make confederation motherships their new homes, or can they travel to others star systems instead of going through Ascension?
帕特里克：好的。那么，在疏散之后，地表人口是否可以让联邦母舰成为他们的新家，或者他们可以旅行到其他星系，而不是通过扬升？
Cobra: It depends on their level of evolvement. Most of human beings will be evacuated to the Pleiadian system, to that planet. Some of the starseeds, star people, will go to the other star systems and some of them will go through the Ascension process. It'll be individual decisions based on people's level of vibrational frequency and their own preferences.
柯博拉： 这取决于他们的进化水平。大多数人类将被疏散到昴宿星系，那个星球。一些星际种子，星际人类，将会去到其他星系，他们中的一些将会经历扬升的过程。这将是个人的决定，基于人们的振动频率水平和他们自己的偏好。
Patrick: Oh, very good. So next one, many people have never gone abroad or even left their hometown before their Ascension. Will we able to recreate a similar environment as the current surface of the planet on another super-Earth? So that humanity can explore various human cultures and scenery?
帕特里克：哦，很好。接下来，许多人在升天之前从来没有出过国，甚至没有离开过家乡。我们是否能够在另一个超级地球上重建一个类似地球表面的环境？这样人类就可以探索不同的人类文化和风景了吗？
Cobra: Yes. Actually, that will happen on the new planet in the Pleiadian system. People will be able to build their environment but then there will be much creativity. So those environments will change and evolve.
柯博拉：是的。事实上，这将发生在昴宿星系的新行星上。人们将能够建造他们的环境，但之后会有更多的创造力。所以这些环境将会改变和发展。
Patrick: Ah, very good. So next one, if someone, some people, want to reach Ascension after the Evacuation, do they need to come back to the Earth for the Second wave or the Third Wave of collective Ascension? And can they reach Ascension at the Pleiades or elsewhere?
帕特里克：很好。那么下一个，如果有人，有些人，想在撤离后到达扬升，他们是否需要回到地球进行第二波或第三波集体扬升？他们能在昴宿星团或其他地方到达扬升吗？
Cobra: They will most likely need to stay in this galaxy because it's a Galactic super wave. And part of that super wave is the Ascension wave. But anywhere in this galaxy, it's fine, they can be anywhere in this galaxy and they will go through that process.
柯博拉：他们很可能需要留在这个星系，因为这是一个银河系的超级波。这个超级波的一部分就是扬升波。但是在这个星系的任何地方，它们都很好，它们可以在这个星系的任何地方，它们都会经历这个过程。
Patrick: Ah, very good. Next one, if a person does not reach Ascension even after the Third Wave or collected Ascension, will he or she still have the chance to ascend? If so, how long does he or she have to wait?
帕特里克：啊，非常好。下一个问题，如果一个人在第三波或者进行提升之后仍然没有达到升天，他或她还有机会扬升吗？如果是这样，他或她需要等待多久？
Cobra: Yes, of course. Everybody... The Ascension path will be opened for everybody and people will be able to travel as fast as they are able or want to.
柯博拉：是的，当然。每个人... ... 升天之路将为每个人打开，人们将能够以他们能够或想要的速度旅行。
Patrick: Ah, very good. So next one, as most of the surface population have to evacuate from the Earth ultimately, so is it really necessary for the underground base in Northern Taiwan to be able to accommodate a billion people?
帕特里克：啊，非常好。那么下一个问题，由于大部分地表人口最终都要从地球上撤离，那么台湾北部的地下基地真的有必要容纳十亿人吗？
Cobra: Yes. It is a precaution for certain scenarios, which are very unlikely, but still possible. It is to ensure safety of the surface population.
柯博拉：是的。它是对某些情况的预防措施，这些情况虽然不太可能发生，但仍然是可能发生的。这是为了确保地表人口的安全。
Patrick: Very good. So next one. You mentioned that half a billion people will have to be sent to the Galactic Central Sun for reconstruction, this method might be similar to a massive ethnic cleansing. Why would the Light Forces propose such a radical option?
帕特里克：很好。下一个。你提到5亿人将被送往银河系中央太阳进行重建，这种方法可能类似于大规模的种族清洗。为什么光明势力会提出如此激进的选择？
Cobra: It is simply a decree from on high that evil needs to end, darkness has to end, and people who choose darkness or evil have to be gone. (Ah) There is no room for that anymore. It was enough.
柯博拉：这只是上天的旨意，邪恶必须终结，黑暗必须终结，选择黑暗或邪恶的人必须消失。(啊)现在已经没有这样的空间了。够了。
Patrick: Okay. So next one. Since the Ascended Masters and Goddesses are the embodiment of Cosmic Love, is it possible for them to inspire and enlighten those 500 million people with Love?
帕特里克：好的。下一个。既然扬升的大师和女神是宇宙之爱的化身，那么他们是否有可能用爱来启发和启迪这5亿人呢？
Cobra: They of course will try, but it is not expected [that] they will be very successful. They might be successful in some cases, but in most cases it's very unlikely.
柯博拉:他们当然会尝试，但预计不会非常成功。他们在某些情况下可能会成功，但在大多数情况下不太可能。
Patrick: Okay. So, the next one is according to the Bible, Mathew chapter 13: 40 "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in fire; so shall be in the end of the world." Did Jesus predict more than 2000 years ago that some people cannot reach Ascension but to be burnt by the Galactic Central Sun for another evolution cycle?
帕特里克：好的。马太福音第13章40节说: "因此稗子在火中聚集焚烧，世界末日也必如此。"耶稣是否在2000多年前就预言，有些人不能达到扬升，只能被银河系的中央太阳焚烧，进入另一个进化周期？
Cobra: Yes, exactly.
柯博拉：是的，没错。
Patrick: Really. Wow. Okay. The next question. Many people felt worried after reading [the] Ascension Plan Update because they thought they might belong to that "to-be-restructured" group. The Light Forces should understand that a half billion people are quite considerable even on a global scale. A lot of people may not [be] aware they might have potential psychopath or sociopath personality. Can you give us some examples of personnel or crimes that will never be tolerated by the Light Forces?
帕特里克：真的。哇。好的。下一个问题。许多人在阅读了"升天计划更新"后感到担忧，因为他们认为自己可能属于那个"待重组"群体。光明势力应该明白，即使在全球范围内，5亿人也是相当可观的。许多人可能没有意识到他们可能有潜在的精神病或反社会人格。你能给我们一些光明势力永远不会容忍的人员或犯罪的例子吗？
Cobra: Actually, most people who are reading my blog are going to be fine. They are not evil. They are not psychopaths or sociopaths. And people who are psychopaths will never worry about this and they know they're evil. So everybody will be given a free choice to accept Light or not, and those who wish to accept Light will of course not be taken to the Central Sun, but people who intentionally do evil and don't want to change they will be gone.
柯博拉：事实上，大多数读我博客的人都会没事的。他们并不邪恶。他们不是精神变态者或反社会者。精神病患者永远不会担心这个，他们知道自己是邪恶的。所以每个人都有自由选择是否接受光，那些希望接受光的人当然不会被带到中央太阳，但是那些故意作恶，不想改变的人将会离开。
Patrick: Oh, okay. Very good. So next one, have Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler and other notorious tyrants been sent to Galactic Central Sun for restructuring?
帕特里克：哦，好吧。非常好。那么下一个问题，毛泽东、阿道夫 · 希特勒和其他臭名昭著的暴君是否已经被送到银河中央太阳进行重组？
Cobra: Many of them. Yes.
柯博拉：很多，是的。
Patrick: Oh, very good. So next one, even if the Light Forces can escort the souls of key Cabal members to the Galactic Central Sun, the dark forces might insert memory copies of those dead members into human clones, and then allow those clones to act behind the scenes. If that's the case, how can the Light Forces make sure that restructuring those souls would benefit the planetary liberation progress?
帕特里克：哦，很好。所以接下来，即使光明势力可以护送阴谋集团关键成员的灵魂到银河系的中央太阳，黑暗力量也可能将这些死去成员的记忆复制品植入人类克隆体中，然后允许这些克隆体在幕后行动。如果是这样的话，光明势力如何确保这些灵魂的重组将有利于行星的解放进程？
Cobra: The dark forces cannot make copies of those beings. They can just create a fake person clone that looks like that particular being, but it's not the same. So, restructuring those souls removes them forever from this universe, it's gone.
柯博拉：黑暗势力无法复制那些生物。他们可以创造一个假的克隆人，看起来像那个特定的生物，但是它不是一样的。所以，重组这些灵魂让他们永远离开这个宇宙，它消失了。
Patrick: Oh, very good. So, okay. Now I have the last question. Aion and Iona are a couple of Cosmic twin souls. What is their role in terms of the galactic magnetic excursion?
帕特里克：很好。那么，好吧。现在我有最后一个问题。Aion 和 Iona 是一对宇宙双生灵魂。他们在银河系的磁场漂移中扮演什么角色？
Cobra: They will be channeling very intense very high frequency energies during the Galactic pulse and they will be blessing the whole galaxy with their presence, which will be quite beautiful.
柯博拉:他们将在银河脉冲期间引导非常强烈非常高频率的能量，他们将祝福整个银河系的存在，这将是非常美丽的。
Patrick: Ah, very good. So, thank you for your answering. And this is... I will [hand it back] give my host to Hoshino. Hoshino, your turn.
帕特里克：啊，很好。谢谢你的回答。这是... 我会把主持人交给星野。星野，该你了。
Hoshino: Yep. Thank you, Patrick. And so Cobra, I will ask the following questions. And after the Evacuation, there will be a huge tsunami engulfing most of the surface of the Earth. How can such a disaster somehow purge the Earth?
星野：是的。谢谢，帕特里克。柯博拉，我会问以下问题。在疏散之后，将会有一场巨大的海啸吞没大部分的地球表面。这样的灾难怎么能以某种方式清除地球呢？
Cobra: It'll basically purge the surface of the planet from the pollution and distortions that humanity have created, and it'll give nature an opportunity to recover and revive.
柯博拉：它将基本上清除地球表面的污染和人类造成的扭曲，它将给自然一个恢复和复兴的机会。
Hoshino: But we know that a huge tsunami can bring all kinds of debris and pollutants back to the ocean. This sounds like an ocean catastrophe. How would the Light Forces solve this problem?
星野:
但是我们知道巨大的海啸会把各种各样的碎片和污染物带回海洋。这听起来像是一场海洋灾难。光明势力将如何解决这个问题？
Cobra: The Light Forces have technologies to remove most of those pollutants before they can do any damage, and at that point that will be done.
柯博拉: 光明势力拥有在它们造成任何破坏之前去除大部分污染物的技术，而且在那个时候就能做到这一点。
Hoshino: I see. That's good to hear. Thank you. And the pulse wave emanated from the Galactic Central Sun is also known as the Galactic Wave of Love. Is it not contradictory to name something that can trigger a doomsday cataclysm as Love?
星野：我明白了。很高兴听你这么说。谢谢。从银河系中心太阳发出的脉冲波也被称为银河大爱波。把能够引发世界末日灾难的东西命名为"爱"难道不矛盾吗？
Cobra: It is not, because it'll not be a doomsday cataclysm. It'll be a rebirth, restructuring, repositioning. It is something completely different.
柯博拉:不是，因为它不会是世界末日的灾难。它会是一次重生，重组，重新定位。这是完全不同的东西。
Hoshino: Agree. Thank you. The next question, in the past, you mentioned that the fourth or the Arhat initiation means the dissolution of the vertical implant. Does this concept suggest that all the positive ET races living in the free universe are Arhat-level Ascended Beings?
星野：同意。谢谢。下一个问题，在过去，你提到第四个或者说是罗汉的开始意味着垂直植入物的溶解。这个概念是否意味着生活在自由宇宙中的所有积极的外星人种族都是罗汉级别的提升存在？
Cobra: No, they are not. But the vertical implant is the main obstacle towards the Arhat initiation. And... But it does mean that all those positive ET races that don't have that implant can, if they choose, reach Arhat-level consciousness very easily.
柯博拉:不，他们不是。但是垂直植入是 Arhat 入会的主要障碍。而且... 但这确实意味着所有那些没有植入的正面外星人种族，如果他们选择的话，可以很容易地达到 arhat 级别的意识。
Hoshino: I see, understood. And what's the difference between passing the Arhat initiation and becoming a Buddha?
星野:我明白了。那么通过罗汉灌顶和成佛有什么区别呢？
Cobra: Arhat initiation actually gives you access to Buddhic consciousness, but becoming a fully developed Buddha with a full potential is a much higher state of evolution.
柯博拉:罗汉灌顶实际上是让你进入佛陀的意识，但是成为一个完全发展的佛陀，拥有完全的潜能，是一个更高的进化状态。
Hoshino: I see. And will the surface population who participate in collective Ascension become Buddha directly? If not, how large is the gap between a newly ascended human and the Buddha?
星野：我明白了。参与集体升天的地表人口会直接成为佛吗？如果不是，那么新升天的人类和佛陀之间的差距有多大？
Cobra: As I said, the gap is quite big and it'll take some time for people who ascend to reach that level.
柯博拉:正如我所说，差距是相当大的，要达到这个水平还需要一些时间。
Hoshino: Okay. Understood. And how do Ascended Master explain Nirvana in a way that most modern people can understand?
星野:好的。明白了。那么扬升大师如何用一种大多数现代人都能理解的方式来解释涅槃呢？
Cobra: It is a state of consciousness which encompasses everything. It is a state of consciousness of One. It is pure enjoy which transcends space and time
柯博拉:它是一种包含一切的意识状态。它是一个人的意识状态。它是超越时空的纯粹享受
Hoshino: I see. Thank you. And what would be the future of the Moon, the Sun and our solar system after the Earth completes its Ascension?
星野：我明白了。谢谢。那么，在地球完成扬升之后，月球、太阳和太阳系的未来会是怎样的呢？
Cobra: The whole solar system will be refreshed in a way because the solar pulse/solar flash will trigger certain effects throughout the solar system. But generally speaking, most planets will still look the same. Some of them might experience their own polar shifts, but the solar system will look pretty much the same as it does now with some minor changes.
柯博拉: 整个太阳系将以某种方式得到更新，因为太阳脉冲/太阳闪光将触发整个太阳系的某些影响。但是一般来说，大多数行星看起来还是一样的。有些行星可能会经历自己的极移，但是太阳系看起来和现在差不多，只有一些微小的变化。
Hoshino: Okay. Thank you. And the next question, the world population will certainly excess 8 billion this year. If only about 2000 people out of 8 billion will be qualified to participate in the First Wave of Ascension, then continue to live on Planet Earth, some people may thought (think) that those people are the group of trojan horses sent by the ET races who intend to occupy the Earth. Can you elaborate on what requirements must a person meets to be included in the "First Wave List"?
星野：好的。谢谢。下一个问题，今年世界人口肯定会超过80亿。如果80亿人中只有大约2000人有资格参加第一波扬升，那么继续生活在地球上，一些人可能会认为(认为)这些人是外星人种族派来的特洛伊木马，他们打算占领地球。你能详细说明一个人必须满足什么条件才能被列入"第一波名单"吗？
Cobra: What kind of ideas people have? I would say that people who will be in the "First Wave List" are people with highly developed consciousness, with a lot of innocence and connection with the Light.
柯博拉:人们有什么样的想法？我想说的是，那些将会出现在"第一波列表"中的人们都是具有高度发达的意识的人们，他们拥有大量的纯真和与光的联系。
Hoshino: Okay. And most of the surface population will move to a planet in the Pleiades after the Evacuation. Can you reveal the name of our future home planet, and describe its environment, climate and life standard, if possible?
星野：好的。大部分地表人口会在撤离后，迁移到昴宿星团的一个行星上。如果可能的话，你能透露一下我们未来母星的名字，描述一下它的环境，气候和生活标准吗？
Cobra: This planet looks pretty much the same as Earth does now without the pollution, without the stress, without wars. Humans, which will be living there will be guided by the higher developed beings and they will receive guidance, but they will be able to take care of their own development in a harmonious way.
柯博拉:这个星球看起来和现在的地球差不多，没有污染，没有压力，没有战争。生活在那里的人类将被更高发展的存有引导，他们将接受指导，但是他们将能够以一种和谐的方式照顾自己的发展。
Hoshino: I see, it is so amazing. I'm looking forward to it. <Laugh> And once humanity undergoes three waves of collective Ascension, there should be no more darkness in this universe. You know what will be the next Divine Plan for this universe?
星野:我明白了，太神奇了。我很期待。一旦人类经历了三次集体扬升，这个宇宙就不会再有黑暗了。你知道这个宇宙的下一个神圣计划是什么吗？
Cobra: The next Divine Plan is to unite everything into One. It'll be going deeper into One, deeper into happiness, deeper into joy. It Is a very beautiful plan.
柯博拉:下一个神圣计划是把所有的事物合为一体。它将更深入地融入一体，更深入地融入幸福，更深入地融入欢乐。这是一个非常美妙的计划。
Hoshino: I see. That's good.
星野：我明白了，很好。
Cobra: Yes. So, at this point, we will have to finish this interview and we can do the second part at the later time with the second part of the questions.
柯博拉：是的。所以，现在，我们必须完成这个采访，我们可以在稍后的时间用第二部分的问题来做第二部分。
Hoshino: That's fine. Thank very much for your time today, Cobra. And would you mind speaking to the audience some final words before we end the interview?
星野:没关系。非常感谢你今天的时间，柯博拉。在我们结束采访之前，你介意给观众讲几句最后的话吗？
Cobra: Yes. I would like to congratulate everybody who was able to hold the Light in those challenging times. And it was, I would say this is the most unusual time in the whole human history and craziest time, but we are going to make it. Victory of the Light!
柯博拉:好的。我想祝贺每一个在那个充满挑战的时代能够守住光的人。我想说，这是人类历史上最不寻常的时刻，也是最疯狂的时刻，但我们会成功的。光的胜利！
Hoshino: Thank you very much, Cobra. Victory of the Light!
星野:非常感谢，柯博拉，光的胜利！
Jedi: Thank you, Cobra. Victory of the Light!
Jedi:谢谢你，柯博拉，光的胜利！
Cobra: Thank you.
柯博拉：谢谢。
Patrick: Thank you. Victory of the Light! Yay!
帕特里克：谢谢。光的胜利! 耶！
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We Love Mass Meditation organizes Mass Meditations aiming to help achieve planetary liberation as soon as possible and as smoothly as possible.
我们热爱群体冥想组织群体冥想旨在帮助实现行星解放尽快和尽可能顺利。
Please join any of the meditations below if you feel so guided.
如果你觉得自己受到了引导，请加入下面的冥想活动。
Urgent meditation for peace between Russia and NATO every 4 hours
每4小时为俄罗斯和北约之间的和平进行紧急冥想
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2022/06/urgent-meditation-for-peace-between-russia-and-nato-every-4-hours.html
Urgent meditation to stop the monkeypox outbreak every 4 hours
每4小时进行一次紧急冥想，阻止猴痘爆发
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2022/05/urgent-meditation-to-stop-the-monkeypox-outbreak-every-4-hours.html
Daily meditation for healing the Los Angeles vortex at 7:45 PM UTC
协调世界时下午7:45每日冥想治愈洛杉矶漩涡
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2022/02/daily-meditation-for-healing-los-angeles-vortex-at-745-pm-utc.html
Daily meditation for healing the Ljubljana vortex at 6:45 PM UTC
协调世界时下午6:45，为治愈卢布尔雅那漩涡而进行的每日冥想
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2022/01/daily-meditation-for-healing-the-ljubljana-vortex-at-645-pm-utc.html
紧急冥想从地下基地解救所有人质
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/05/urgent-meditation-for-liberating-all-hostages-from-underground-bases.html
Meditation for Taiwan every 4 hours
每4小时为台湾进行一次冥想
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/09/meditation-for-taiwan-every-4-hours.html
每4小时为阿富汗冥想一次
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/08/meditation-for-afghanistan-every-4-hours.html
Flower of Life Meditation, 12 PM UTC and every 4 hours, also at any time and as often as possible https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2019/09/flower-of-life-meditation-every-4-hours.html
生命之花冥想，协调世界时下午12点，每4小时，也在任何时候，尽可能经常 https://www.welovemassmeditation. com/2019/09/Flower-of-Life-Meditation-every-4-hours. html
Meditation to counteract medical tyranny daily at 9:30 PM UTC
冥想抵制医疗暴政，每天在协调世界时晚上9:30
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/09/meditation-to-counteract-engineer-second-wave-lockdowns-daily-at-930-pm-utc.html
End of Coronavirus Meditation at 3 PM UTC and every 4 hours http://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/04/end-of-coronavirus-meditation-on-sunday-at-3pm-utc-and-every-4-hours.html
结束冠状病毒冥想在协调世界时下午3点和每4小时 http://www.welovemassmeditation. com/2020/04/End-of-Coronavirus-Meditation-on-sunday-at-3pm-UTC-and-every-4-hours. html
Emergency Meditation at 2 PM UTC
协调世界时下午2点的紧急冥想
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2018/02/breakthrough-meditation-at-2-pm-utc-and.html
Goddess Vortex Meditation at 2:30 PM UTC
协调世界时下午2:30女神漩涡冥想
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/01/goddess-vortex-meditation-at-230-pm-utc-every-day.html
Cosmic Central Race Meditation at 3:15 PM UTC https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2019/02/cosmic-central-race-meditation-at-315.html
宇宙中央种族冥想协调世界时下午3:15 https://www.welovemassmeditation. com/2019/02/Cosmic-Central-Race-Meditation-at-315.html
Buddhic Columns Meditation at 3:30 PM UTC
协调世界时下午3:30的佛柱冥想
https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2018/10/daily-buddhic-columns-meditation-at-330.html
We also organize different mass meditations regularly for various purposes. They can be found in this link below:
我们也为不同的目的定期组织不同的群体冥想，它们可以在以下链接中找到:
https://welovemassmeditation.blogspot.co.uk/p/blog-page.html
Donation to We Love Mass Meditation Fund
捐款给我们爱集体冥想基金
We Love Mass Meditation Fund provides emergency financial support to Lightworkers around the world. Please feel free to make a regular or one-off contribution using the link below:
我们热爱大众冥想基金为世界各地的光之工作者提供紧急财政支持。请随时使用以下链接定期或一次性捐款:
paypal.me/WeLoveMassMeditation
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cobra cobra interview
柯博拉采访
来源：https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2022/09/2022-cobra-interview-by-wlmm-igag-pfc-japan-official-part-1.html
