Sisterhood of the Rose organized an interview with chief intel provider "Cobra" to discuss the importance of the upcoming total solar eclipse taking place in the United States on Monday, April 8, 2024. In this interview, Cobra and Debra, a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network, discuss how this eclipse is an opportunity for the people of the United States to decide the optimal future for the USA; and how it presents a significant moment of decision of what their future will be.
玫瑰姐妹会组织了对首席情报提供商"柯博拉"的采访，讨论即将于 2024 年 4 月 8 日星期一在美国发生的日全食的重要性。在这次采访中，Cobra 和 Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network 的领导人 Debra 讨论了这次日食如何成为美国人民决定美国最佳未来的机会;以及它如何呈现出决定他们未来的重要时刻。
To take advantage of this powerful moment, there will be a 20-minute global mass meditation on April 8th at exactly 6:18 PM UTC, and Cobra and Debra talk about the importance of as many people as possible participating, so that a new cycle of manifestation may begin to create the most positive timeline. They also discuss the power of eclipses, restoring the Constitution of the United States, the role that Saint Germain played in the creation of the United States and the role he plays today, the USA 2024 elections, the astrology of Pluto in Aquarius, the "Great Awakening", the Statue of Liberty, the Age of Aquarius, Native Americans, the Goddess Equator and Goddess energy, and more.
为了利用这个强大的时刻，4月8日下午6：18（UTC）将举行20分钟的全球集体冥想，Cobra和Debra谈论尽可能多的人参与的重要性，以便新的表现周期可以开始创造最积极的时间表。他们还讨论了日食的力量、恢复美国宪法、圣日耳曼在美国创建中所扮演的角色以及他今天所扮演的角色、美国 2024 年大选、冥王星在水瓶座的占星术、"大觉醒"、自由女神像、水瓶座时代、美洲原住民、 女神赤道和女神能量，等等。
You can listen to the interview on the Sisterhood of the Rose YouTube channel here:
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Sisterhood of the Rose Interview with Cobra "USA Solar Eclipse"
What is so important about the USA total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024? In this interview, Cobra, chief intel provider, and Debra, a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network, discuss how this eclipse is an opportunity for the people of the United States to decide the optimal future for the USA; how it presents a significant moment of decision of what their future will be.
Below is the transcript of the interview:
以下为访谈实录：
Debra: Hello, my name is Debra and I'm a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network. Today I again have the pleasure to speak with Cobra, who is the chief Intel provider for the Resistance Movement, where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog, 2012portal.blogspot.com. Welcome, Cobra, and thank you for doing this interview.
黛布拉：你好，我叫黛布拉，我是玫瑰行星网络姐妹会的领导者。今天，我再次有幸与Cobra交谈，他是抵抗运动的主要情报提供商，他在博客 2012portal.blogspot.com 上提供了重要的行星和银河系信息。欢迎，柯博拉，谢谢你接受这次采访。
Cobra: Thank you for the invitation. And hello everybody.
柯博拉：谢谢你的邀请。大家好。
Debra: Yes. Today we are speaking primarily about a very popular topic in the United States and around the world…the upcoming total solar eclipse that takes place in the United States on Monday, April 8th. And to take advantage of this powerful moment, there will be a 20-minute synchronized meditation taking place at the peak of the eclipse at 6:18 PM UTC, which is 2:18 PM Eastern Time here in the US. So, Cobra, to start, can you please explain why is an eclipse a powerful time to do a large, synchronized meditation? Like what is the astrological significance of an eclipse and the resulting energy it creates?
黛布拉：是的。今天我们主要谈论一个在美国和世界各地非常受欢迎的话题......即将到来的日全食将于4月8日星期一在美国发生。为了利用这个强大的时刻，在UTC时间下午6：18，也就是美国东部时间下午2：18，日食高峰期将进行20分钟的同步冥想。那么，柯博拉，首先，你能解释一下为什么日食是进行大型同步冥想的有力时机吗？比如日食的占星学意义是什么，以及它产生的能量是什么？
Cobra: Okay. All eclipses, especially solar eclipses are very powerful moments. And the power of that moment is that an eclipse, solar eclipse especially, creates a doorway through which you can amplify your free will. So all free will decisions made at the moment of a total solar eclipse are far more powerful, and focused intent at that moment is extremely powerful. So, having a mass meditation at the moment of a solar eclipse is magnified many, many times. And the path of totality will go through the United States, so this particular eclipse will be especially important for the United States.
柯博拉：好的。所有的日食，尤其是日全食，都是非常强大的时刻。那一刻的力量在于，日食，尤其是日全食，创造了一扇门，你可以通过它放大你的自由意志。因此，在日全食的那一刻做出的所有自由意志决定都要强大得多，而那一刻的专注意图也非常强大。因此，在日食的那一刻进行大规模冥想会被放大很多很多倍。而日全食的路径将穿过美国，所以这次特殊的日食对美国来说尤为重要。
Debra: Yes, yes. You've said that there are two events in 2024 that will have the most impact on the future of the US. One is this April 8th solar eclipse, and the other is the presidential election on November 5th. So how is it that this eclipse presents the opportunity for a moment of decision for US citizens to decide what our future will be? What's the purpose of doing this mass meditation specifically for the United States during this eclipse?
黛布拉：是的，是的。您曾说过，2024年有两件事将对美国的未来产生最大影响。一个是4月8日的日食，另一个是11月5日的总统大选。那么，这次日食如何为美国公民提供决定时刻的机会，以决定我们的未来将是什么？在这次日食期间，专门为美国进行这种大规模冥想的目的是什么？
Cobra: This eclipse is an opportunity for a critical mass of people within the United States to decide the optimal future for that country. So to visualize, and invoke, and start manifesting the optimal future for United States; it's actually to begin a cycle of manifestation of that optimal future. So this is the opportunity that this eclipse gives to the citizens of the United States.
柯博拉：这次日食是美国境内大量人民决定该国最佳未来的机会。因此，要想象、调用并开始展示美国的最佳未来;它实际上是开始一个最佳未来的表现循环。所以这就是这次日食给美国公民的机会。
Debra: And as you mentioned, the eclipse is an opportunity to use our free will, and so that's what we would be doing at this point, correct?
黛布拉：正如你提到的，日食是一个使用我们自由意志的机会，所以这就是我们现在要做的，对吗？
Cobra: Yes.
柯博拉：是的。
Debra: And we understand that the critical mass, the goal is to have 30,000 US citizens doing the meditation. Why is it important that these people are US citizens?
黛布拉：我们知道临界质量，目标是让 30,000 名美国公民进行冥想。为什么这些人是美国公民很重要？
Cobra: It is because it is the future of this country to be decided, and only people who are residents of the United States, or I would say rather US citizens, are the ones who are most empowered and are the right people to make that decision.
柯博拉：这是因为这个国家的未来有待决定，只有美国居民，或者更确切地说是美国公民，才是最有能力做出决定的人。
Debra: Okay. Will people from other countries also doing their meditation help support the impact of this?
黛布拉：好的。来自其他国家的人也在做他们的冥想，会帮助支持这种影响吗？
Cobra: Yes, of course. People from other countries will also be doing this meditation and they can support, but the main focus and main decision need to be made by people from the US.
柯博拉：是的，当然。来自其他国家的人也会做这种冥想，他们可以支持，但主要的焦点和主要决定需要由来自美国的人做出。
Debra: Okay, good. What effect will reaching this critical mass of 30,000 have on the US, and how will it affect the overall situation? Will it put us on a positive timeline moving forward?
黛布拉：好的，好的。达到30,000的临界质量将对美国产生什么影响，它将如何影响整体局势？它会让我们走上积极的前进时间表吗？
Cobra: If we reach a critical mass of 30,000 people meditating, this will begin a new cycle of manifestation through which a more positive future will start manifesting, and this will start shifting the timeline for the United States into a more positive direction from that moment onward.
柯博拉：如果我们达到30,000人冥想的临界质量，这将开始一个新的表现周期，通过这个周期，一个更积极的未来将开始显现，这将开始将美国的时间表从那一刻起转向更积极的方向。
Debra: So, we definitely want to reach critical mass, so we're encouraging everyone to participate as well as share as much as you can with other people so that we can reach that critical mass of 30,000 people on April 8th.
黛布拉：所以，我们肯定希望达到临界质量，所以我们鼓励每个人参与并尽可能多地与其他人分享，这样我们就可以在 4 月 8 日达到 30,000 人的临界质量。
So, let's talk a little bit about the history of the United States. One veiled aspect is the role that Saint Germain played in the creation of the United States and in the development of the Constitution. During this meditation, we will be invoking him to assist us in this transition. Now, many people are not aware of Saint Germain. They may know of his incarnation as Comte de Saint Germain in the 1700s, where he received much notoriety in European high society, but they may not be aware of him as an Ascended Master, nor of the important role that he played in creating the United States. Would you share information about Saint Germain's role in this? And is it true that he together with Benjamin Franklin created the Constitution?
那么，让我们谈谈美国的历史。一个隐蔽的方面是圣日耳曼在创建美国和制定宪法方面所发挥的作用。在这次冥想中，我们将祈求他来帮助我们完成这个过渡。现在，很多人都不知道圣日耳曼。他们可能知道他在 1700 年代化身为圣日耳曼伯爵，在那里他在欧洲上流社会中声名狼藉，但他们可能不知道他是一位扬升大师，也不知道他在创建美国方面所扮演的重要角色。您能分享一下圣日耳曼在这方面的作用吗？他与本杰明·富兰克林（Benjamin Franklin）一起制定了宪法，这是真的吗？
Cobra: Okay. In the 18th century, he was quite active in France and there was a quite strong connection between France and the United States, and there was a lot of support in French high society for the creation of independent United States. And there were some people who were positioned in French masonic lodges at that time. Some of them were quite influential also in the creation of the United States and in the creation of the Constitution. And one of them was Benjamin Franklin, who was a member of quite an important French masonic lodge, and he had contact with Saint Germain. Saint Germain actually appeared once or twice in the formation period of the United States on the physical plane, and he gave inspiration for the creation of the Constitution and for the creation of the Declaration of Independence. He knew that the United States as a country has great potential. And I will be speaking about it later during this interview.
柯博拉：好的。在18世纪，他在法国相当活跃，法国和美国之间有相当紧密的联系，法国上流社会对建立独立的美国有很多支持。当时有一些人被安置在法国共济会的小屋里。他们中的一些人对美国的创建和宪法的制定也产生了相当大的影响。其中一位是本杰明·富兰克林（Benjamin Franklin），他是法国一个相当重要的共济会的成员，他与圣日耳曼有过接触。圣日耳曼实际上在美国形成时期在物质层面上出现过一两次，他为宪法的制定和《独立宣言》的制定提供了灵感。他知道美国作为一个国家具有巨大的潜力。我稍后将在这次采访中谈到它。
Debra: Okay, good. Yes, Saint Germain has stated that "America is the jewel of my heart" and that he has a very special fondness for America. Why is this, I mean, what's so important about the United States?
黛布拉：好的，好的。是的，圣日耳曼曾说过"美国是我心中的明珠"，他对美国有着非常特殊的喜爱。为什么，我的意思是，美国有什么如此重要？
Cobra: The United States as an independent country is actually a project, a part of the project of Saint Germain called the New Atlantis. His purpose was to recreate the civilization of Light that existed on this planet in the time of old Atlantis tens of thousands of years ago. And his mission was, and still is, to recreate that civilization of Light. And as the United States was formed as an independent country, it was a huge potential to bring liberty and freedom to its population, and in that way to create a foundation on which this new society can be born. This was his project, and still is his project, and this is why the United States was so important, and still so important for him.
柯博拉：美国作为一个独立国家实际上是一个项目，是圣日耳曼项目的一部分，称为新亚特兰蒂斯。他的目的是重建数万年前旧亚特兰蒂斯时代存在于这个星球上的光之文明。他的使命是，现在仍然是，重建光之文明。由于美国是一个独立的国家，它有巨大的潜力为其人民带来自由，并以此为这个新社会的诞生奠定了基础。这是他的计划，现在仍然是他的计划，这就是为什么美国如此重要，对他来说仍然如此重要。
Debra: Is the purpose of the upcoming eclipse meditation to reestablish the United States as the New Atlantis? And how will this benefit the rest of the world?
黛布拉：即将到来的日食冥想的目的是为了让美国重新成为新亚特兰蒂斯吗？这将如何使世界其他地区受益？
Cobra: Actually, one of the purposes of this meditation is to reactivate this archetype and then reactivate that plan again, so that I would say the most awakened people in the United States can start anchoring the Light for the New Atlantis and to reconnect with that archetype and start building a civilization of Light that was meant to be in the United States. And it was meant to be the role model for the whole world. That was the original purpose.
柯博拉：实际上，这个冥想的目的之一就是重新激活这个原型，然后再次重新激活这个计划，这样我想说，美国最觉醒的人可以开始为新亚特兰蒂斯锚定光明，并与那个原型重新建立联系，并开始建立一个本应在美国存在的光明文明。它本来是全世界的榜样。这就是最初的目的。
Debra: Ah, the role model. That's interesting. So what is Saint Germain's role for this now, both for the US and for the planet?
黛布拉：啊，榜样。这很有趣。那么，圣日耳曼现在对美国和地球都扮演着什么角色呢？
Cobra: Okay. What he's doing is he's reactivating the Light grid around the planet. I would say there is a network of etheric currents which encompasses the planet, and maintaining that Light grid and stabilizing the Light grid can ensure the most possible positive timeline for the planet. And also, he is inspiring those who are ready for his inspiration to recreate that civilization of Light, to rebuild that civilization of Light again on the planet.
柯博拉：好的。他正在做的是重新激活地球周围的光栅。我想说的是，有一个以太电流网络环绕着这个星球，维持这个光网格并稳定光网格可以确保地球最可能的正面时间线。而且，他正在激励那些准备好接受他的灵感的人，去重建那个光明文明，在这个星球上再次重建那个光明文明。
Debra: How would you best suggest we connect with Saint Germain to do this?
黛布拉：你如何最好地建议我们与圣日耳曼联系来做到这一点？
Cobra: The first thing is for everybody to become more familiar of who he was and who he is, and to meditate upon his presence, call upon his presence, and he will respond.
柯博拉：第一件事是让每个人都更加熟悉他是谁，他是谁，并冥想他的存在，呼唤他的存在，他会回应。
Debra: Interesting, thank you. As we understand it, Saint Germain was also creating the new financial system, funding money in a special account called the Saint Germain Trust, and this money accumulated to 40 to 50 trillion dollars and that it will be released for the whole of humanity after the Event that brings down the cabal. Can you tell us a little more about this? And also, is there any chance that any of this money could be released before that?
黛布拉：有意思，谢谢。据我们了解，圣日耳曼也在创造新的金融体系，在一个名为圣日耳曼信托的特殊账户中提供资金，这笔钱累积到40到50万亿美元，它将在推翻阴谋集团的事件之后为全人类释放。您能告诉我们更多有关这方面的信息吗？而且，有没有可能在此之前释放这些钱？
Cobra: Okay. Saint Germain has created this trust in the 18th century, and this money has accumulated, of course, a lot of interest, and now it amounts to, at this moment, more than 50 trillion dollars. And this money will be released when the new financial system is introduced, and this will be given to humanity for, I would say, as the initial kickstart fund for New Atlantis.
柯博拉：好的。圣日耳曼在18世纪建立了这种信托，这笔钱当然积累了很多利息，现在目前已超过50万亿美元。当新的金融体系被引入时，这笔钱将被释放出来，我想说，这笔钱将作为新亚特兰蒂斯的初始启动基金提供给人类。
Debra: Okay, good. And so, I'll ask you again, is there any chance that any of this could be released before the Event?
黛布拉：好的，好的。所以，我再问你一次，有没有可能在事件开始前发布这些内容？
Cobra: It is extremely unlikely.
柯博拉：这是极不可能的。
Debra: Okay, thank you. Wanted to get clarity about that. Let's discuss the second decisive time for the USA in 2024, which is the presidential election on November 5th. Why is this upcoming election also a significant time to chart the course for the United States, and what is most important for people to understand about this?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢。想弄清楚这一点。让我们讨论一下美国在 2024 年的第二个决定性时刻，即 11 月 5 日的总统大选。为什么即将到来的选举也是为美国制定路线的重要时刻，人们了解这一点最重要的是什么？
Cobra: I would say that this is a moment of great potential; great potential for good, and also a great potential for darkness, depending on what timeline will be decided and what people will do about that situation. The dark forces have plans to divide the country more and more, and the Light Forces have plans to bring more unity and more inspiration at that moment. So it is not decided yet what will happen, but it'll be one of the key moments to decide the destiny of the United States.
柯博拉：我想说这是一个充满潜力的时刻;向善的巨大潜力，也为黑暗带来巨大的潜力，这取决于将决定什么时间线以及人们将如何应对这种情况。黑暗势力有计划将国家越来越分裂，而光明势力则计划在那一刻带来更多的团结和更多的灵感。因此，目前还没有决定会发生什么，但这将是决定美国命运的关键时刻之一。
Debra: Will the eclipse meditation, if we reach critical mass, will that have an impact on helping the situation between now and the election?
黛布拉：如果我们达到临界质量，日食冥想会不会对从现在到选举之间的局势产生影响？
Cobra: Of course, if the critical mass is reached, then the United States will start gravitating towards the most positive timeline.
柯博拉：当然，如果达到临界质量，那么美国将开始倾向于最积极的时间线。
Debra: Okay. Can you give us any further ideas of what we might expect here in the US before, during, or after the election on November 5th?
黛布拉：好的。您能否进一步了解我们在 11 月 5 日大选之前、期间或之后对美国的期望？
Cobra: It is a time of epical battle between the light and the dark. And this battle will intensify. There will be more and more polarization, but there are also quite important breakthroughs possible. The astrology for the United States is actually much better than expected, so it is not as bad as most media presented. It is actually much better, so there are many good things happening behind the scenes, and that energy can be used to hold the light for the most positive timeline, to visualize that, to hold the vision for a positive timeline and for the positive outcome of this experience.
柯博拉：这是一个光明与黑暗之间史诗般的战斗时期。这场战斗将愈演愈烈。两极分化会越来越多，但也有相当重要的突破可能。美国的占星术实际上比预期的要好得多，所以它并不像大多数媒体呈现的那么糟糕。它实际上要好得多，所以在幕后发生了许多好事，这些能量可以用来为最正面的时间表保持光明，将其可视化，为正面的时间线和这种体验的正面结果保持愿景。
Debra: Okay, very good. That's exactly what I want to talk about next is the astrology of this time right now. So, we've discussed before about the significance of Pluto's journey into and out of Aquarius during these times. Pluto has now moved back into Aquarius, which it only does approximately every 250 years. And when this occurs, it's generally a time of monumental change and transformation. So, what is the significance of Pluto entering Aquarius now, especially since Pluto was in the same position in Aquarius as it was at the birth of the United States nearly 250 years ago?
黛布拉：好的，很好。这正是我接下来要谈的，就是现在的占星术。所以，我们之前已经讨论过冥王星在这段时间里进出水瓶座的意义。冥王星现在已经回到了水瓶座，它大约每250年才回过一次。当这种情况发生时，通常是一个巨大的变化和转型的时期。那么，冥王星现在进入水瓶座的意义是什么，特别是因为冥王星在水瓶座的位置与近250年前美国诞生时的位置相同？
Cobra: Okay. One aspect of the Pluto in Aquarius archetype is the bringing of the new age, the bringing of the Age of Aquarius. It is a moment of spiritual renaissance. And in this particular cycle we are now in, the energy of Pluto in Aquarius brings First Contact. It brings contact between the surface humanity and extraterrestrial civilizations, one way or the other. And as Pluto is entering Aquarius this year, it'll stay in Aquarius for two decades, and those two decades will be the timeframe during which that contact needs to happen.
柯博拉：好的。冥王星在水瓶座原型中的一个方面是新时代的到来，水瓶座时代的到来。这是一个精神复兴的时刻。在我们现在所处的这个特殊周期中，冥王星在水瓶座的能量带来了第一次接触。它以一种或另一种方式带来了地表人类和外星文明之间的联系。随着冥王星今年进入水瓶座，它将在水瓶座停留二十年，而这二十年将是需要发生这种接触的时间范围。
Debra: During this year, 2024, Pluto makes a final brief return into Capricorn from September 1st to November 19th. And then as you said, it turns back into Aquarius for the next 20 years. So, when Pluto is in Capricorn, it also signifies change, but often where what is in the shadows comes to light. So what is this last period when Pluto goes back into Capricorn for a few months this year look like, and how to prepare for it? And by the way, it's interesting that the US elections fall into this window of time. Will there be any impact from this, and if so, how?
黛布拉：在2024年，冥王星在9月1日至11月19日最后一次短暂返回摩羯座。然后正如你所说，在接下来的20年里，它又变回了水瓶座。因此，当冥王星在摩羯座时，它也意味着变化，但通常阴影中的东西会显露出来。那么，今年冥王星回到摩羯座几个月的最后一个时期是什么样子的，又该如何准备呢？顺便说一句，有趣的是，美国大选正好落在这个时间窗口。这会有什么影响吗，如果有，会如何影响？
Cobra: Pluto in Capricorn brings transformation, or I would rather say destruction of the old controlling systems. Pluto in Capricorn in the last, I would say, about two decades brought into light a lot of corruption and a lot of anomaly that exists in the controlling system on the planet. And the period between September 1st and November 19th is a period when the last impulse for that destruction of the old, this awakening of what really exists in the controlling system, will come to humanity. And as the election is in that timeframe, a lot of what was hidden before will come to light. A lot of negative aspects of the controlling system will be brought to light, and that is also a time of the greatest polarization. So that time is full of potential, and also a possibility for destruction. So we have to uphold the Light and visualize the best possible outcome for that timeframe.
柯博拉：冥王星在摩羯座带来转变，或者我更愿意说是旧控制系统的破坏。冥王星在摩羯座，我想说，大约二十年，揭示了地球上控制系统中存在的许多腐败和异常现象。在9月1日到11月19日之间，是摧毁旧事物的最后冲动，这种对控制系统中真正存在的事物的觉醒，将降临到人类的时期。由于选举是在这个时间范围内进行的，许多以前隐藏的东西都会被曝光。控制系统的许多负面方面将被曝光，这也是一个两极分化最严重的时期。因此，时间充满了潜力，也充满了毁灭的可能性。因此，我们必须坚持圣光，并想象在那个时间范围内的最佳结果。
Debra: Okay, thank you for that information. So there could potentially be a lot more disclosure coming out at that time. Let's speak again about Pluto in Aquarius. In history, it's also been a time of rebellion, revolutions, and significant societal changes. I mean, it was after 248 years ago that the American Revolution occurred. Will any type of revolution be necessary to instill changes in the United States, and how likely is this to happen to any degree?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢你提供的信息。因此，届时可能会有更多的披露。让我们再谈谈水瓶座的冥王星。在历史上，这也是一个叛乱、革命和重大社会变革的时期。我的意思是，美国独立战争是在 248 年前之后发生的。是否有必要进行任何类型的革命来灌输美国的变革，这种革命在多大程度上发生的可能性有多大？
Cobra: Okay. Pluto in Aquarius this time will transform the Earth's surface humanity as a whole. It'll not be limited only to the United States. So the societal change will happen everywhere, and I would say it will be beyond the scope of revolution as people understand it. It will be a complete transformation which will leave no stone unturned.
柯博拉：好的。冥王星这次在水瓶座，将改变整个地球表面的人类。它不会仅限于美国。因此，社会变革将无处不在，我想说，这将超出人们所理解的革命范围。这将是一次彻底的转变，将不遗余力。
Debra: Okay, wow. So, it is important for people to understand the mass infiltration of darkness that's taken place on the planet. And one of the most effective tactics used by darkness is to divide and polarize the people, as you've mentioned, by creating opportunities for them to fight amongst themselves, which distracts from what's really going on, which in the case of the United States is the dismantling of the Republic itself. What can citizens do to address this?
黛布拉：好的，哇。因此，对于人们来说，了解地球上发生的黑暗的大规模渗透是很重要的。正如你所提到的，黑暗使用的最有效的策略之一是分裂和分化人民，为他们创造相互争斗的机会，这分散了对真正发生的事情的注意力，就美国而言，这是共和国本身的解体。公民可以做些什么来解决这个问题？
Cobra: Okay, this is in a way a tricky question, because most people forget what is really important here. Everybody is a human being. The dark forces have created an artificial divide between Democrats and Republicans on the mental plane, and they are putting the focus of the people on the mental plane. And people forget that there is a soul in every human being. And focusing on that human soul is far more important than any political label that anybody can have. And focusing on that, humanity will bring the necessary change on the surface of the planet.
柯博拉：好，这在某种程度上是一个棘手的问题，因为大多数人都忘记了这里真正重要的东西。每个人都是人。黑暗势力在心理层面上人为地在民主党人和共和党人之间制造了鸿沟，他们把人们的注意力放在了心理层面上。人们忘记了每个人都有一个灵魂。关注人类的灵魂远比任何人都能拥有的任何政治标签重要得多。专注于这一点，人类将给地球表面带来必要的变化。
Debra: Okay, good. So maybe just being more in touch with your soul and your heart and feeling more compassion for other people?
黛布拉：好的，好的。所以也许只是更多地接触你的灵魂和你的心灵，对他人有更多的同情心？
Cobra: Yeah, you can put it that way.
柯博拉：是的，你可以这样说。
Debra: Okay. Many people have been awakening to the reality of nefarious beings taking over all aspects of government as well as other areas of our life, not just here in the US but also globally. And many people call it the "Great Awakening", which happens on an emotional, spiritual, and intellectual level. Part of this will include releasing information about the cabal, about extraterrestrial life, and the release of greatly improved technology. So as more information gets disclosed, as more people awaken, and as you mentioned, potentially more chaos ensues, after April 8th what should we focus on between now and the election?
黛布拉：好的。许多人已经意识到，邪恶的生物接管了政府的各个方面以及我们生活的其他领域，不仅在美国，而且在全球范围内。许多人称之为"大觉醒"，它发生在情感、精神和智力层面。其中一部分将包括发布有关阴谋集团的信息，关于外星生命的信息，以及发布大大改进的技术。因此，随着更多信息被披露，随着越来越多的人觉醒，正如你提到的，可能会有更多的混乱接踵而至，在4月8日之后，从现在到选举，我们应该关注什么？
Cobra: The focus should be what kind of society you wish to create, what kind of society we would like to have. To have a positive vision for the future.
柯博拉：重点应该是你想创造什么样的社会，我们想要什么样的社会。对未来有一个正面的愿景。
Debra: Okay, so rather than focusing, you know, on being fear-based and focusing on what's wrong or what could potentially go wrong, hold the vision of the society and the life that you want to have.
黛布拉：好的，所以与其专注于基于恐惧，专注于什么是错的或可能出错的事情，不如保持对社会和你想要的生活的愿景。
Cobra: Exactly, because many people are already aware of what's wrong. Of course, it is good to have that awareness, but we need to go beyond that at this point.
柯博拉：没错，因为很多人已经意识到出了什么问题。当然，有这种意识是件好事，但此时我们需要超越这一点。
Debra: Okay. With this Great Awakening, people are doing their own research to become better informed about the truth of our reality, which is a good thing, but hopefully they're using their own discernment, since there's also much disinformation out there. Can you tell us what role spirituality and self-reflection play in this process? And how would you recommend people better discern, as well as grapple with some of the hard truths that will surface?
黛布拉：好的。通过这次大觉醒，人们正在做自己的研究，以更好地了解我们现实的真相，这是一件好事，但希望他们使用自己的洞察力，因为那里也有很多虚假信息。你能告诉我们灵性和自我反省在这个过程中扮演什么角色吗？你会如何建议人们更好地辨别，以及应对一些将要浮出水面的残酷事实？
Cobra: The key is to use common sense, combined with intuition and higher guidance. Because there is so much disinformation out there, it's very important to use common sense, to use a sane mind, and also to use your intuition and train it every day, and it will get better and better, and more and more precise.
柯博拉：关键是要运用常识，结合直觉和更高的指导。因为外面有太多的虚假信息，所以使用常识，使用理智的头脑，以及使用你的直觉并每天训练它非常重要，它会变得越来越好，越来越精确。
Debra: In spite of the Great Awakening, there unfortunately still are many people asleep, especially in the United States. How can we get these people to love America, rather than work to destroy it? And are there enough awake people in this country to counteract the energy of the negative effects that the asleep ones are having?
黛布拉：尽管发生了大觉醒，但不幸的是，仍然有很多人在睡觉，尤其是在美国。我们怎样才能让这些人爱美国，而不是努力摧毁它？这个国家是否有足够的清醒的人来抵消沉睡者产生的负面影响的能量？
Cobra: You cannot awaken somebody who does not want to awaken. So if you would like to have a positive effect, spread the Light to those who are willing to receive it. And unfortunately, there are not enough awake people now, but this can change in the future.
柯博拉：你无法唤醒一个不想唤醒的人。因此，如果你想产生积极的影响，就把光传播给那些愿意接受它的人。不幸的是，现在没有足够的清醒的人，但这种情况在未来可能会改变。
Debra: Okay, thank you. So, regarding the day of the solar eclipse, there has been so much talk. It increases every day in the mainstream media, as well as some alternative media, where people are talking about potential disaster taking place and urging people to prepare for one to two weeks of supplies, and that phones and internet may go out. Why is this? Is there a nefarious agenda at play, such as a biological attack to create another pandemic? Should people be concerned? Do we need to prepare for anything?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢。所以，关于日食的那一天，已经有很多讨论。在主流媒体以及一些另类媒体中，它每天都在增加，人们正在谈论正在发生的潜在灾难，并敦促人们为一到两周的物资做好准备，电话和互联网可能会中断。为什么会这样？是否有邪恶的议程在起作用，例如制造另一场大流行的生物攻击？人们应该担心吗？我们需要为任何事情做准备吗？
Cobra: No, no, no. This has been overblown completely. During the eclipse, many people will travel to the zone of totality, and there will be a lot of people moving to other locations. So there will be extreme traffic congestion, which can lead to minor supply chain disruptions. And also, certain states are relying on solar electricity and that can create some power grid disruption on the day of the eclipse. Nothing serious, but there might be minor disruptions because simply there will be too many people doing the same thing at the same time. So nothing to worry about. It's just a practical concern of too many people migrating on that day into the zone of totality.
柯博拉：不，不，不。这完全被夸大了。在日食期间，许多人会前往全食区，也会有很多人搬到其他地方。因此，将出现极端的交通拥堵，这可能导致轻微的供应链中断。而且，某些州依赖太阳能发电，这可能会在日食当天造成一些电网中断。没什么大不了的，但可能会有轻微的干扰，因为会有太多人同时做同样的事情。所以没什么好担心的。这只是一个实际问题，太多人在那一天迁移到整体区域。
Debra: Okay, thank you for that. I feel like a lot of people will be relieved to hear that, so thank you. So, we can't have a discussion about America without talking about Native Americans. There are dark and painful periods of American history that do need to be brought into the light and healed, particularly regarding those that took place with tribal and indigenous nations. And we do acknowledge that this has also happened globally. So, from your perspective, what is the most important thing that we can do right now to address the current and past suffering that's been unleashed? Is there a message that you have for cultures like the Native Americans who have suffered, they've been genocided, they've had their land stolen?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢你。我觉得很多人听到这个都会松一口气，所以谢谢你。因此，我们不能在不谈论美洲原住民的情况下讨论美国。美国历史上有一些黑暗和痛苦的时期确实需要被曝光和治愈，特别是那些发生在部落和土著民族身上的时期。我们确实承认，这种情况在全球范围内也发生过。那么，从你的角度来看，我们现在能做的最重要的事情是什么，以解决当前和过去所释放的痛苦？对于像美洲原住民这样遭受苦难、被种族灭绝、土地被盗的文化，你有什么信息吗？
Cobra: At this moment, the most important thing would be for people to learn about the rich culture that those Native Americans have – legends, myths, that strong and rich culture – which has been almost forgotten because that is the strength lying behind all that. So much of this has been destroyed, but it can be revived, and this will be the power of the new regeneration. And from this, real forgiveness and real healing can happen.
柯博拉：此时此刻，最重要的是让人们了解那些美洲原住民所拥有的丰富文化——传说、神话、那种强大而丰富的文化——这些文化几乎被遗忘了，因为这就是这一切背后的力量。其中很多已经被摧毁了，但它可以复活，这将是新再生的力量。由此，真正的宽恕和真正的治愈可以发生。
Debra: Okay, great. I would think it would also be beneficial for Native Americans to really seek to go back to their roots and their deep spirituality. And I feel like that could also anchor a lot of positive energy into the United States. Do you agree?
黛布拉：好的，太好了。我认为，对于美洲原住民来说，真正寻求回到他们的根源和他们深层的灵性也是有益的。我觉得这也可以为美国带来很多正能量。你同意吗？
Cobra: Yes, absolutely.
柯博拉：是的，当然。
Debra: In the Eclipse meditation, in addition to our intent being to restore the Constitution of the United States, we are also intending to usher in the new era of the Age of Aquarius. So, you mentioned this earlier, but for those of people who don't know much about the Age of Aquarius, can you explain a little bit more about what it is? And we talked about visualizing the future and what we want, and could you explain more of what that looks like?
黛布拉：在日食冥想中，除了我们的意图是恢复美国宪法之外，我们还打算迎来水瓶座时代的新时代。所以，你之前提到过这一点，但对于那些对水瓶座时代不太了解的人，你能解释一下它是什么吗？我们谈到了对未来的想象和我们想要什么，你能解释一下它是什么样子的吗？
Cobra: Okay. Age of Aquarius is, I would say, the new age that will come after the completion of the current one, and it means the rebirth of a new society that will be based on true spirituality, and I would say a much more harmonious human society. And this is something that we can visualize, and this is what we were born to create in this life.
柯博拉：好的。我想说，水瓶座时代是当前时代完成后的新时代，它意味着一个基于真正灵性的新社会的重生，我会说一个更加和谐的人类社会。这是我们可以想象的东西，这就是我们生来就是为了创造的。
Debra: Okay, good. Do we understand it correctly that we have already started moving into the Age of Aquarius?
黛布拉：好的，好的。我们是否正确地理解我们已经开始进入水瓶座时代？
Cobra: Yes, we are in the transition period right now.
柯博拉：是的，我们现在正处于过渡期。
Debra: Will it only fully really kind of blossom after the Event?
黛布拉：它只会在事件结束后完全开花吗？
Cobra: Exactly.
柯博拉：没错。
Debra: Okay. Will restoring the US Constitution move us closer to this? How do you see other nations responding if the US is able to restore our own Constitution, especially if we're able to do this within a short window of time?
黛布拉：好的。恢复美国宪法会让我们更接近这一点吗？如果美国能够恢复我们自己的宪法，特别是如果我们能够在短时间内做到这一点，您如何看待其他国家的反应？
Cobra: I think if that would happen, other nations would have much more respect for the United States.
柯博拉：我认为，如果发生这种情况，其他国家会更加尊重美国。
Debra: Yeah, we could use a little more respect right now. And so, restoring our US Constitution, I assume it will move us further into the Age of Aquarius.
黛布拉：是的，我们现在可以多一点尊重。因此，恢复我们的美国宪法，我认为这将使我们进一步进入水瓶座时代。
Cobra: Yes, it's part of the same process.
柯博拉：是的，这是同一过程的一部分。
Debra: Okay. And we discussed earlier the importance that Saint Germain has put on the United States, but can you explain any further what is the intended role of the USA leading up to and during the Event, the following Golden Age, and in overall Planetary Ascension? It seems like the importance of the United States is a big reason why there's such a focus on destroying the Republic right now. Is this true?
黛布拉：好的。我们之前讨论了圣日耳曼对美国的重要性，但您能否进一步解释一下，美国在事件之前和期间、下一个黄金时代以及整个行星扬升中的预期作用是什么？美国的重要性似乎是现在如此关注摧毁共和国的一个重要原因。这是真的吗？
Cobra: Actually, the great potential of the United States was fully blossoming in the 1980s and to a degree 1990s, when there was a big spiritual awakening in the United States. And then this awakening was heavily suppressed by the dark forces. And I would say the potential is still there, but it has not been fully utilized.
柯博拉：实际上，美国的巨大潜力在1980年代和1990年代完全绽放，当时美国出现了一次巨大的精神觉醒。然后这种觉醒被黑暗势力严重压制。我想说的是，潜力仍然存在，但尚未得到充分利用。
Debra: Okay, thank you. And as we near the end of this interview, I'd like to talk about Goddess energy, especially as it relates to the United States. So first, let's discuss the Statue of Liberty. The statue is a figure of Libertas, the Goddess of Liberty and Freedom. In her right hand, she holds a torch. And in her left, a tablet inscribed "July 4th, 1776", the date of the US Declaration of Independence. And the statue was given to the US as a gift from France. Can you speak about the connection to France? You've talked a little bit earlier about that. And the true significance of this iconic statue that sits in the New York Harbor?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢。在这次采访接近尾声的时候，我想谈谈女神的能量，特别是因为它与美国有关。所以首先，让我们讨论自由女神像。这座雕像是自由女神利伯塔斯的形象。她的右手拿着火炬。在她的左边，有一块刻有"1776 年 7 月 4 日"的石碑，即美国独立宣言的日期。这座雕像是法国送给美国的礼物。您能谈谈与法国的联系吗？你刚才已经谈到了这一点。这座坐落在纽约港的标志性雕像的真正意义是什么？
Cobra: Okay. This statue was a gift of French masonic lodges to the United States. But I would say here, I would stress the positive masonic lodges. This statue is a very powerful anchor of the Goddess Libertas. Libertas was a Roman Goddess of Liberty and Freedom, and that energy is being anchored in the New York Harbor, and this is, I would say the entry point for that energy. And it is a very important positive anchor, which the dark forces tried to misuse, but they were not successful. So as long as that statue stands there, it'll keep anchoring the energy of liberty and freedom there.
柯博拉：好的。这座雕像是法国共济会小屋送给美国的礼物。但我想在这里说，我要强调正面的共济会小屋。这座雕像是自由女神的一个非常强大的锚点。利伯塔斯是罗马的自由女神，而这种能量正停泊在纽约港，我想说，这是这种能量的切入点。这是一个非常重要的正面锚点，黑暗势力试图滥用它，但没有成功。因此，只要那座雕像站在那里，它就会继续将自由和自由的能量锚定在那里。
Debra: Okay, good, thank you. That was my next question…has the statue ever anchored Goddess energy in the US, and what the current status is of that?
黛布拉：好的，好的，谢谢。这是我的下一个问题......这座雕像是否曾经在美国锚定过女神的能量，目前的状况如何？
Cobra: Yes, yes, it has been anchoring that energy for over 100 years, and it will keep doing that.
柯博拉：是的，是的，它已经锚定了这种能量超过100年，它将继续这样做。
Debra: Wonderful, thank you. And just to explain, Goddess energy is the Divine Feminine representing qualities of love, compassion, peace, and more. But we do know that this feminine energy has been suppressed for so long in our country, as well as all over the world. And we're at a point where that healing energy of the Divine Feminine is very, very much needed. So, what is the role and importance of anchoring Goddess energy in the United States at this time?
黛布拉：太好了，谢谢。解释一下，女神的能量是神圣的女性，代表着爱、同情、和平等品质。但我们确实知道，这种女性能量在我们国家以及全世界都被压制了这么久。我们正处于一个非常非常需要神圣女性的治愈能量的时刻。那么，此时的美国锚定女神能量的作用和重要性是什么呢？
Cobra: Okay, this is part of a global process because much, much more of that energy is needed worldwide. And since the focus of the Planetary Liberation processes is in the United States for this year, this is the focal point for that energy to be reactivated, especially during this time.
柯博拉：好的，这是全球进程的一部分，因为全世界需要更多的能量。由于今年行星解放进程的焦点在美国，这是重新激活能量的焦点，尤其是在这段时间。
Debra: Okay, thank you. And I would like to take this opportunity to mention that a very powerful way to help anchor Goddess energy is to get involved with the Sisterhood of the Rose. Everyone can find a list of groups that meet around the world on our website: sisterhoodoftherose.network. And so Cobra, during the recent Phoenix Conference, you stated that the solar eclipse will activate the Goddess Equator, which in the United States runs almost parallel to the line of the upcoming eclipse. Can you explain to those who aren't aware what the Goddess Equator is, as well as the significance of these two paths being so close and so similar?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢。我想借此机会提一下，帮助锚定女神能量的一个非常有效的方法就是参与玫瑰姐妹会。每个人都可以在我们的网站上找到世界各地聚会的团体列表：sisterhoodoftherose.network。所以柯博拉，在最近的凤凰城会议上，你说日食将激活女神赤道，在美国，赤道几乎与即将到来的日食线平行。你能向那些不知道赤道女神是什么的人解释一下，以及这两条道路如此接近和如此相似的意义吗？
Cobra: Okay. The Goddess Equator is the old equator that the Earth had in Atlantean times in the time of the old Atlantis before the Polar Shift. And along that equator, there were very powerful Goddess temples, which anchored Goddess energy at that time. And one part of that Goddess Equator runs through the United States almost parallel to the line of the upcoming eclipse. So those two lines will communicate with each other and interact with each other at the moment of the eclipse, and it'll be a very powerful energy dynamic which will bring super powerful energies through the United States.
柯博拉：好的。女神赤道是地球在极地转移之前的旧亚特兰蒂斯时代在亚特兰蒂斯时代所拥有的旧赤道。沿着那条赤道，有非常强大的女神庙宇，它们锚定了当时的女神能量。而女神赤道的一部分贯穿美国，几乎与即将到来的日食线平行。因此，在日食的那一刻，这两条线将相互通信并相互作用，这将是一个非常强大的能量动态，它将为美国带来超级强大的能量。
Debra: That's really good to know that they will be kind of feeding each other. Is it a coincidence that these two paths are so similar?
黛布拉：很高兴知道他们会互相喂养。这两条路如此相似，是巧合吗？
Cobra: Of course not. This is part of the, I would say, great design of the Divine plan, part of the New Atlantis plan.
柯博拉：当然不是。我想说，这是神圣计划伟大设计的一部分，是新亚特兰蒂斯计划的一部分。
Debra: Love that, thank you. And before we close, I would like to acknowledge the Patriots out there who feel passionate about restoring the Constitution and who work hard to awaken the masses. We very much hope they will all join the eclipse meditation because restoring the Constitution is one of the main goals of the meditation, and we really hope that they will share with their audiences. As we know, the more people that participate, the more powerful the results will be. And I'd like to address that some Patriots are not necessarily meditators, so Cobra, how best can we reach them and inspire them to participate in the meditation? If they're not inclined to do the synchronized meditation, would it still be beneficial for them to visualize the freedom they want for the US during the time of the meditation?
黛布拉：很喜欢，谢谢。在我们结束之前，我要感谢那些对恢复宪法充满热情并努力唤醒群众的爱国者。我们非常希望他们都能加入日食冥想，因为恢复宪法是冥想的主要目标之一，我们真的希望他们能与观众分享。众所周知，参与的人越多，结果就越强大。我想说的是，有些爱国者不一定是冥想者，所以柯博拉，我们如何才能最好地接触他们并激励他们参与冥想？如果他们不倾向于进行同步冥想，那么在冥想期间想象他们想要的美国自由对他们来说仍然有益吗？
Cobra: I think it'll be easier for many people to join the meditation if they become aware that many scientific studies have proved that mass meditations do have impact on society, and this might be a good motivation for those who otherwise would not join…to join this time and sacrifice 20 minutes of their time for this. If they do not want to follow the official meditation guideline, they can of course use their own visualization or their own way of doing it, although it'll not be as effective because we need to focus intent. Every participation is welcome and will be much appreciated.
柯博拉：我认为，如果许多人意识到许多科学研究已经证明大规模冥想确实对社会有影响，那么他们会更容易加入冥想，对于那些本来不会加入的人来说，这可能是一个很好的动力......加入这个时间并为此牺牲 20 分钟的时间。如果他们不想遵循官方的冥想指南，他们当然可以使用自己的可视化或自己的方式，尽管它不会那么有效，因为我们需要集中注意力。欢迎每一位参与，我们将不胜感激。
Debra: Wonderful, thank you. Do you have any other recommendations and final words of inspiration for us?
黛布拉：太好了，谢谢。您还有什么其他建议和最后的灵感吗？
Cobra: Okay, at the moment of this interview, we have a little bit more than two weeks to go before the eclipse. I would invite everybody to share this with those who would be open, who would be interested, and to share the Light and anchor the Light in those two weeks, because we're approaching one of the key moments that can help us decide and create a better future. So thank you everybody, and Victory of the Light.
柯博拉：好的，在这次采访中，我们距离日食还有两周多一点的时间。我邀请大家与那些愿意开放、感兴趣的人分享这一点，并在这两周内分享圣光并锚定圣光，因为我们正在接近可以帮助我们决定和创造更美好未来的关键时刻之一。所以谢谢大家，感谢光明的胜利。
Debra: Yes, Victory of the Light. Thank you so much for this inspiration. We encourage people to check out your blog at 2012portal.blogspot.com, as well as the We Love Mass Meditation website at welovemassmeditation.com for further information and updates. I would like to thank the USA Eclipse Meditation team and the We Love Mass Meditation team for their support with this interview, and especially to you, Cobra, for joining this interview. We appreciate the information that you share and how you continue to hold the Light for humanity. Thank you again.
黛布拉：是的，光明的胜利。非常感谢您的灵感。我们鼓励人们在 2012portal.blogspot.com 上查看您的博客，以及在 welovemassmeditation.com 查看We Love Mass Meditation网站以获取更多信息和更新。我要感谢 USA Eclipse Meditation 团队和 We Love Mass Meditation 团队对这次采访的支持，特别感谢你 Cobra 参加这次采访。我们感谢您分享的信息，以及您如何继续为人类持有圣光。再次感谢你。
Cobra: Thank you, and goodbye.
柯博拉：谢谢你，再见。
Debra: Goodbye. Victory of the Light!
黛布拉：再见。光的胜利！
Cobra: Victory of the Light!
柯博拉：光的胜利！
It's important that as many people as possible participate on April 8th, so please spread the word!
4 月 8 日让尽可能多的人参与进来很重要，所以请广而告之！
For more information about this important meditation, please visit
有关这一重要冥想的更多信息，请访问
Click here for guided audio for the April 8th meditation:
单击此处查看 4 月 8 日冥想的指导音频：
来源:https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2024/03/sisterhood-of-rose-interview-with-cobra-usa-solar-eclipse.html
