Sisterhood of the Rose organized another interview with chief intel provider "Cobra" to follow up about the results of the important and successful Portal of Light Activation mass meditation that took place in May.
In Part 2 of this interview, Cobra and Debra, a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network, discuss how the positive timeline is now much more stable and what we might expect moving forward. They also discuss current events, planetary liberation and the "Event", the Galactic Superwave, Ascension, twin souls, the Divine Feminine and Goddess energy, healing, protection, and much more!
在这次访谈的第二部分，Cobra 和 Debra，一个玫瑰行星网络姐妹会的领导者，讨论了正面的时间线是如何变得更加稳定的，以及我们可能会期待什么向前发展。他们也讨论当前事件，行星解放和"事件"，银河超级波，扬升，双生灵魂，神圣女性和女神能量，治疗，保护，等等！
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Below is the transcript of the interview:
Debra:Hello and greetings! Welcome to another Sisterhood of the Rose interview. My name is Debra, and I'm a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network. Today I welcome back Cobra, who is the chief intel provider for the Resistance Movement, where he offers important planetary and Galactic information at his blog, 2012portal.blogspot.com.
We are continuing with Part 2 of our Portal of Light Activation interview, where we'll discuss results of the very important Portal of Light Activation mass meditation that took place on May 1st, as well as talk about important topics like current events, planetary liberation, Ascension, twin souls, healing, and much more. We hope to bring some clarity on some much-asked questions and offer some practical advice for these very important times. So, welcome back Cobra, and thank you for joining me again for this interview.
Cobra:Thank you for your invitation.
1.PORTAL OF LIGHT ACTIVATION
Debra:Absolutely. So let us start by discussing some of the results and progress after the Portal of Light Activation. As we know, it was a big success. We had a global mass meditation on May 1st and critical mass was reached, and we would like to thank everyone who participated and helped to promote it. So, Cobra, your report regarding this activation indicates that the positive timeline is now much more stable. The toplet bombs have been destroyed, and now the remaining obstacles to planetary liberation can be removed easier, faster, and with less risk. The mental plane is clear and control of the astral plane was broken. And then in a most recent update, you shared that the etheric plane is now practically clear. So all of this is very good news. In our last interview, right before this activation, you indicated that with this activation with Pluto in Aquarius, we would have two steps forward, but then after Pluto temporarily returns to Capricorn after this portal closed on June 11th, there would be one step back. So are these positive gains some of the two steps forward? We'd love for you to elaborate a little bit about the results of that meditation please.
Cobra:Actually, you have just described what the main effects of the meditation were, and there was a lot of progress and this progress has stabilized the positive timeline a lot.
Debra:Fantastic. Alright, well, let's continue to talk about some of those important gains. But what about the one step back? What might we expect in general regarding that?
Cobra:Okay. One step back is basically clearing of the subquantum anomaly. This subquantum anomaly is much more intense than previously expected. And this is why right now we are in a state of kind of a limbo, because a lot of this anomaly has to be cleared because we can make substantial progress again.
Debra:Okay, and we'll talk a little bit more about that too. So, it is great news about the etheric plane clearing, even though you said it still looks like a war zone. How long before the cracks of light begin to appear in the etheric matrix that you mentioned in a previous update? And what impact will that have?
Cobra:Okay. It was expected for those cracks to appear quite soon, but as I said just before, the subquantum anomaly is still creating problems also on the etheric plane and other non-physical planes. So this will take some time. And when those cracks begin to appear, this will change the rules of the game on this planet, this will begin to finally trigger the changes we have all been waiting for for so long.
Debra:Any idea how long that might take for those cracks of light to appear?
Cobra:Even if I would have that, it would be classified information at this point.
Debra:Okay. So in the preliminary report that you put out immediately after the activation on May 1st you announced DEMATRIX activated, and then a month later in your State of Mission report you stated DEMATRIX attempt failure. So what can you tell us about DEMATRIX and the status of that?
黛布拉：好的。所以在5月1日开启后你立即发布的初步报告中你宣布 DEMATRIX 开启，然后一个月后在你的任务状态报告中你说 DEMATRIX 尝试失败。你能告诉我们关于 DEMATRIX 的情况吗？
Debra:Okay, I thought you might say that. As we understand it, the remaining implants were mainly in the etheric plane. However, now that that is much more clear and the black holes inside the implants have been evaporated, what are the implications in regard to the implants – their existence, their durability, and the effects on the surface population? Will we be able to get signs that they're weakening?
Cobra:Actually those implants are disintegrating very fast because they have no substance anymore. What is not dissolving are the belief systems which have been created through those implants and through the past experiences inside of the quarantine. And even when those implants dissolve, the belief systems which were held by those implants need to be consciously transmuted by each particular individual.
Debra:So you're saying that the implants are dissolving, but people are still holding onto these belief systems?
Debra:And that's what they'll need to work on, okay. You know, we often do exercises to help dissolve the implants; are these still important to do? Or will we be given instructions on how to modify those to deal with those belief systems?
Cobra:You can still do those exercises, they're quite effective. And I have posted a link about mind clearing technique. There is a book that is quite interesting and quite profound, I would say, and that knowledge can help you with clearing the belief systems, which is the next step right now.
Debra:Okay, good, thank you. You've indicated now that all the nonphysical planes are cleared and that the only location under dark control is the physical plane on the surface of the planet, with the biggest problems, as you mentioned, being the subquantum anomaly as well as the physical biochips. So let's discuss these. With these biochips you mentioned that they are the physical anchor point for the three main plasma implants, which are located in the front lobe [of the brain] and above the navel. Do these biochips work in sync with the implants, and how does the weakening of the implants affect the biochips?
Cobra:Actually the biochips were working in sync with the implants. And as the implants are dissolving now, the main problem are the physical biochips themselves and what they do; they disconnect the connections, the neuron connections, in the brain. So it's like a blockage in the brain, the physical brain. So people cannot make certain connections between certain parts of the brain. That's the main problem now about the biochips.
Debra:Hmm, interesting. I know you said they also are the main source of surveillance since they can see and hear everything that we experience, and then the information is then communicated to the mainframe DARPA computer. Can these biochips also help the dark forces to read our thoughts?
黛布拉：嗯，有意思。我知道你说过他们也是监控的主要来源因为他们能看到和听到我们所经历的一切然后这些信息会被传送到 DARPA 主机的电脑上。这些生物芯片也能帮助黑暗势力读取我们的思想吗？
Cobra:To a certain degree, yes, they can. If you are not trained in clouding your thoughts, I would say, with most people, they can, to a certain degree, read human thoughts.
Debra:Yeah, I mean, most people don't consciously think their thoughts, right? So that's interesting. While I'm on this topic, what about the Light Forces, can they see and hear everything we experience and can they also read our thoughts?
黛布拉：是的，我的意思是，大多数人不会有意识地思考他们的想法，对吗？有意思。当我谈到这个话题的时候，光明势力会怎么样呢? 他们能看到和听到我们经历的一切吗? 他们也能读到我们的想法吗？
Cobra:They can, if you give permission, and if it is beneficial for your protection or for your growth.
Debra:Okay. Is there a way that's best to communicate with the Light Forces? Is that by talking to them out loud or talking to them in our mind?
Cobra:It is mainly better to talk in your mind because then the dark forces cannot spy on this so much. So it's easier and better to just do it mentally at this point.
Debra:Right. What about with the protocols, the command protocols that we were given from the Pleiadians? Because that, as we understand it, we say out loud. Is that still okay to do?
Cobra:Yeah, that's a different thing, because with those protocols you are actually opening a channel for a manifestation process.
Debra:Okay, great, thanks for that clarity. You've mentioned that other races like the Resistance, the Pleiadians, Sirians, Arcturians, and the positive Andromedans, have become free of biochips by completely mastering physical etheric body transfer. So what is a physical etheric body transfer, and are the Light Forces using this technology to clear our biochips?
Cobra:This is a certain advanced teleportation technology, which can basically teleport or transfer your physical body completely to the etheric plane, remodel and harmonize it there, and put it back onto the physical plane. And with this process, they can clear the biochips. Unfortunately, this technology is not working yet on the surface of the planet because of the subquantum anomaly.
Debra:Okay, well, we hope there's some gains made on that soon. As you mentioned, you did offer on your blog a mind clearing technique that can reduce the power of these biochips on the human thinking process. Did you say this also works on the subquantum anomaly? Because this, as you indicate, is the main source of negative experiences and feelings due to the presence of dark entities. Or is there anything else you can suggest to help us reduce its power over us?
Cobra:At this point, the Light Forces are still developing technology and protocols to counteract the subquantum anomaly. That's quite much of a problem still. They are developing individual Hammer of Thor technology, which would actually clear part of this subquantum anomaly from human energy field. But this is still in progress, this has not been finalized yet.
Debra:Okay. And I know you can't reveal too much regarding the subquantum anomaly for now, so unless you have anything further to share about it, we can refrain from discussing it too much today. But there's a question about how the subquantum anomaly blocks the flow of Light from the Buddhic plane to the planet; can you tell us how much effect does doing Buddhic column meditations for various places and people around the planet help this blockage?
Cobra:If you actually manage to make a contact with the Buddhic plane through those meditations, that can help a lot. So even a small fragment of genuine Buddhic presence inside of a quarantine clears a lot of this anomaly. So this is a very good thing to do. And I would strongly recommend doing those Buddhic column meditations as much as you feel guided.
Debra:Okay, good. Should they be done for the planet in general, or are there specific recommended areas that we should put our attention on when we do a Buddhic column?
Cobra:You can do it for yourself, for your loved ones, for the Lightworkers, for certain areas. Right now, it would be good to do it for Ukraine, because there is a huge conflict there and many people are in an extremely negative and stressful environment, a lot of violence, and Buddhic energy over that area would help a lot.
Debra:Okay, wonderful, thank you for sharing that. I'm sure a lot of Lightworkers will get on that right away, so thank you for that. And for now, you indicate the focus in the next few months will be on clearing the subquantum anomaly and the biochips. Does this mean that the subquantum anomaly and the biochips could potentially be removed by this fall?
Cobra:I cannot give any timeframes about that, but I would say that subquantum anomaly will not be removed in such a short period of time. There will be layers upon layers of this being removed, and when enough of this is removed, big changes can begin to happen. Because as long as this universe exists, there will always be a small, small, tiny fraction of subquantum anomaly still present. We just need to decrease it to the point where we can start manifesting big changes.
Debra:Do both the biochips and the subquantum anomaly have to be cleared in order for the Event to happen?
Cobra:As I said, for the subquantum anomaly, no, it has to be cleared to a certain degree. But the biochips, I would say, it's almost the condition they need to be cleared. There are certain extreme circumstances where the Event could happen, even if the biochips are not cleared. I would not go into that right now.
Debra:Okay. Regarding the biochips, you indicated that most of humanity received them from vaccination campaigns from the late 1940s to the early 2000s, as well as through soft drinks. So for people who have never [been] vaccinated or consumed soft drinks, how does their life experience differ from those that have?
Cobra:Many of those people have been targeted in other ways, because when the dark forces realized there is a certain tiny percentage of people who are not vaccinated, they tried to reach them in other ways. For example, through certain foods, through certain other means. But yes, there is a small, tiny percentage of people who are not, who do not have biochips. And most of them live in Africa, and they are, I would say, completely off the grid. They have a different life perspective for sure.
Debra:Yeah, obviously. Can we assume that some people have more biochips than others? And if so, how does this impact them? For instance, are biochips embedded more in asleep people versus awakened people? And can they be passed from person to person?
Cobra:I would say that the most powerful Lightworkers have received stronger biochips because the dark forces wanted to control them more. And I would say that most of the regular surface population have just, I would say, generic basic biochips.
Debra:But Lightworkers may have stronger ones <Laugh>. Wow, okay. Well, hopefully the Light Forces are putting extra attention on the Lightworkers in clearing those within us. And what about can they be passed from person to person?
2.SITUATION ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE
Debra:Let's focus a little bit and talk more about the situation on the physical plane. In the past, you have said that much of the interactions between the dark forces and the Light Forces were on the nonphysical planes. So really most of the surface population have not had any idea of what's going on. But now that the only location under dark control is the physical plane on the surface, does this mean that we'll see more physical visible manifestations of these interactions? And if so, what will that look like?
Cobra:Actually, you can see that already, I would say "end times madness" is a manifestation of this:political polarization, threats of nuclear war; all that is a manifestation of the physical clearing.
Debra:Okay. Recently you shared that from September/October, things may begin to get more interesting. Would you elaborate what "more interesting" may entail or look like?
Cobra:I cannot talk about it yet. I may talk about that as we get closer to the timeframe, or maybe not, because this is still sensitive.
Debra:Okay. Yeah, that's a question a lot of people had <laugh>. In that update, you also made an educated guess for the Event to happen during 2025. So with the dark forces panicking and their agenda accelerated, much can happen between now and then. And, all these unknowns do cause much anxiety for people, especially awakened Lightworkers who are trying really hard to hold the Light. I know that such situations fluctuate, but would you please speak about what we may expect during this time period before the Event, as things currently stand, both short term and long term? For instance, will the Cabal continue to lose power and will conditions improve, or will they increasingly tighten their grip and make matters temporarily worse? Like, what will the surface population find easier and what will they find harder?
Cobra:Actually, both will happen at the same time. As we get closer to the breakthrough, the dark forces will panic more and more. They will escalate more and more. And as the Light gets closer, that will escalate also. So we'll have, I would say, bigger volatility, more oscillations, more polarization. We will have quite intense moments. It is impossible to predict exactly how this will play out, because there is much free will involved still. And it has not been determined yet how exactly the situations will play out. So, in a way, things will be getting harder, and, in a way, things will be getting easier. But when we really get very close to the breakthrough itself, then things will finally begin to improve.
Debra:Well, that right there sounds like the "more interesting" could happen. So, you stated that the Portal of Light activation has removed most of the dark scenarios with only two still remaining:global conventional war and a hard financial crash with CBDCs [Central Bank Digital Currencies] implementation. While it's encouraging to hear that most dark agendas won't happen, both of these remaining possibilities are significant situations that could cause much chaos and hardship on the planet. And we understand that with the success of our Portal of Light Activation meditation on May 1st, it helped to reduce these scenarios:World War was reduced from 33% to 27%, and a hard financial crash went from 37% to the possibility of 32%. So, this interview comes out approximately two months later, and things have been progressing quickly – have these percentages improved at all since then?
黛布拉：嗯，听起来"更有趣"的事情可能会发生。所以，你说光之门的开启已经消除了大部分的黑暗场景，只剩下两个:全球常规战争和随着央行数字货币的实施而出现的严重金融崩溃。虽然听到大多数黑暗议程不会发生是令人鼓舞的，但这两种剩余的可能性都是重要的情况，可能会在这个星球上造成很多混乱和困难。我们知道，随着我们5月1日光之门冥想的成功，它有助于减少这些情景:世界大战从33% 减少到27% ，严重的金融崩溃从37% 降低到32% 的可能性。因此，这次采访大约在两个月后出来，事情进展得很快——这些百分比从那时起有没有改善？
Cobra:I would say there was a slight improvement for the hard financial crash. Maybe it went down to 30%, but otherwise it's almost the same.
Debra:Well, let's talk about that financial situation. You recently stated that the Cabal is pushing hard for the implementation of the CBDCs. And as people are becoming aware, this is not just about using digital currency, it's really about full surveillance and control over our lives. As Ben Fulford calls it, a "digital prison". This could potentially restrict access to our money, food, travel, and mandate things like forced medical treatments, et cetera, for anyone who doesn't comply with this imposed agenda. In our last interview, you indicated that in the long run, the CBDC system will not be successful, but what could happen in the short run before the Event can happen?
黛布拉：好，我们来谈谈财务状况。你最近表示，阴谋集团正在努力推动落实《生物多样性公约》。人们越来越意识到，这不仅仅是使用数字货币，而是对我们生活的全面监控和控制。本•富尔福德(Ben Fulford)称之为"数字监狱"。这可能会潜在地限制我们获得金钱、食物、旅行的机会，并强制任何不遵守这一强加议程的人接受强制医疗等等。在我们上次的采访中，您指出从长远来看，CBDC 系统不会成功，但是在事件发生之前的短期内会发生什么呢？
Cobra:There might be attempts to implement this, similarly to the attempts that happened during the pandemic to create this digital prison. So there might be attempts like this. With a hard financial crash, that could go quite far. And if the Light Forces manage to, I would say, change the situation, I will not discuss how, but if they manage to change the situation, this digital prison will not go so far. So this is still up in the air. It's not possible to predict exactly how far this will go.
Debra:Okay. Is that the "surprise" that you were talking about in our last interview, that if the dark forces engineered this hard financial crash, the Light Forces could potentially create a surprise?
Cobra:Oh, yes, oh, yes. They have a surprise.
Debra:Right. But you can't tell us anything about it yet?
Cobra:No, no, not yet. If it happens, you will see. If it doesn't happen, you will not see.
Debra:Does this have anything to do with Dreamland, which is now so close to version 1.0, or even Dreamspace? I know last time we talked, you couldn't discuss it, it was classified. Is it still classified?
黛布拉：这和现在已经非常接近1.0版本的 Dreamland，甚至是 Dreamspace 有什么关系吗？我知道上次我们谈话的时候，你不能说，那是机密。还是机密吗？
Cobra:Again, it is still classified, and if it gets declassified probably you will have some really direct experience about it.
Debra:We look forward to that. So, if these restrictions do occur, or even hyperinflation, is it advisable to stock up on supplies that may be needed over the next year or so until the Event can occur?
Cobra:You need to use your own inner guidance about that.
Debra:Okay. And last time we talked about with the potential financial crash, you advised to buy some precious metals, such as silver and gold. Is one of the reasons in case someone is restricted from buying food and necessities due to their digital passport being declined, if they don't comply?
Cobra:Actually, by buying silver and gold, you are creating an alternative system which cannot be controlled.
Debra:An alternative system, oh, that's interesting. So we're sort of supporting that concept, that's interesting. What would happen to people's debt in a digital currency system? And when might be the earliest that debt jubilee could occur?
Cobra:Okay, this hard financial crash can include debt forgiveness, but then all of your financial assets will be digitalized, and this would be a total control scenario. So this can possibly happen still.
Debra:Interesting. You've stated in the past that the moment of total meltdown of the current financial system is the last possible moment for the Event to occur. Has this changed, and what qualifies as a total meltdown?
Cobra:Yes, unfortunately, this has changed because of many factors. One of them, subquantum anomaly. The second one, the state of consciousness of the surface population. And the third one, the amount of darkness on this planet. So I would say this situation is a little bit different now.
Debra:Okay. I'm glad we clarified that because there would be people that, you know, if the system crashes, they would think, "Oh my gosh, the Event's happening tomorrow!", you know? So thank you for that clarification.
Cobra:It can, but there are not guarantees.
Debra:What's the likelihood that the new positive quantum financial system could kick in prior to the Event, especially if there is a financial collapse?
Cobra:I cannot comment on this question.
Debra:Can you tell us if it's currently running parallel behind the scenes with the negative reset agenda?
Cobra:I would say the positive quantum financial system is ready to be implemented, and it can be implemented as soon as the dark forces lose their control. It's not running parallel because it's not operational, but it can be activated at the moment's notice.
Debra:Okay, good. Is there anything we need to know about this positive financial system, like how it will operate? I mean, does it have a consciousness, like will it be aware of people's intent?
Cobra:This is not necessary at this point. What is necessary is to have a robust, stable financial system during this transition period before the polar shift happens. That's all.
Debra:Okay. So regarding the biochips that we spoke about, we understand that over the years, these continue to be updated to be more powerful. In May 2021, you indicated that a new technology was still in development and was not present in existing covid vaccines; that current vaccines are only a Trojan horse for a potential future technology that the Cabal wants to develop, which is a biochip that would be inserted into the body and would be tied to a global online digital currency system after the great reset for all financial transactions, the so-called ""Mark of the Beast"." But you also said that this "Mark of the Beast" would not be successful. Would you update us on the progress of this technology, and if it still looks like the "Mark of the Beast" plan won't succeed? And what are the chances of another pandemic worse than covid being unleashed to try to facilitate this digital system?
黛布拉：好的。所以关于我们谈到的生物芯片，我们知道这些年来，这些芯片不断更新，变得更加强大。2021年5月，你曾表示，一项新技术仍在研发中，现有的冠状病毒疾病疫苗中没有这种技术，目前的疫苗只是特洛伊木马，代表的是阴谋集团希望开发的一种潜在未来技术，这种技术是一种生物芯片，将被植入人体，并在所有金融交易大重置后与全球在线数字货币系统绑定，即所谓的"野兽标记"(Mark of the Beast)但你也说过这个"野兽印记"不会成功。你能告诉我们这项技术的最新进展吗如果看起来"野兽印记"计划还是不能成功的话？为了促进这一数字系统的发展，又有多大可能出现比释放冠状病毒疾病更严重的流行病？
Cobra:Okay. This plan has been completely stopped. This technology was destroyed by the Light Forces. The Resistance Movement has completely destroyed this new biochip technology. So it's not existing anymore.
Debra:Wow, we love you Light Forces, thank you, <laugh>. You've mentioned a sci-fi novel titled "Breaking Dawn" that you said includes both the pandemic and the Event. A description of this book talks about an attack that crashes the investment market, brings down economic systems, and divides the world. One part dominated by mass surveillance and mass data systems. The other part is abandoned without services with limited communication and shoved 50 years behind the times, but where human minds are left to their own bearings. How likely is it that we will move into this dystopia-type situation, with our choices being to either comply or having to live a rudimentary lifestyle without services 50 years behind the times, you know, what people would consider an off-grid lifestyle?
黛布拉：哇，我们爱你，光明势力，谢谢你，< laugh > 。你提到过一本名为《破晓》的科幻小说，你说它包括了流行病和事件。这本书的描述谈到了一次使投资市场崩溃、经济体系崩溃和世界分裂的袭击。一部分由大规模监视和大规模数据系统主导。另一部分则被抛弃了，没有了有限的通讯服务，被推到了50年后的时代，但是人类的思想被留给了自己的方位。我们有多大可能会进入这种反乌托邦式的状况，我们的选择是要么遵守，要么过一种基本的生活方式，没有服务，落后于时代50年，你知道，人们会怎么看待脱离电网的生活方式？
Cobra:Many people are believing in this timeline, but I would say this timeline is extremely unlikely. I would say 2% or 3% possibility of something like this to happen.
柯博拉：很多人都相信这个时间线，但我认为这个时间线是极不可能的。我认为发生这种事的可能性是2% 或3% 。
Debra:Okay, because, you know, to move to the middle of nowhere and buy land, it's a lot of work. But I know that's been a question that a lot of people have had, like, should we be doing that? So thank you for that clarification. This [next question] is a big question that many Lightworkers have asked... will (specifically) Lightworkers be able to experience any tangible improvements in the coming months? And if so, will those improvements keep growing as we get closer to the Event? I know you said, that as the Event becomes quite close, situations will improve. But what about before then? You know, many Lightworkers are experiencing financial hardship and health issues, so, as I mentioned, this was a very popular question.
黛布拉：好的，因为，你知道，搬到无所适从买地，是一项很大的工作。但我知道很多人都有这样的疑问我们应该这么做吗？谢谢你的澄清。这个[下一个问题]是许多光之工作者已经问过的一个大问题... ... (特别是)光之工作者是否能够在未来几个月里体验到任何明显的改善？如果是这样，随着我们越来越接近事件，这些改进会不会继续增长？我知道你说过，随着比赛的临近，情况会有所改善。那之前呢？你知道，许多光之工作者正在经历财政困难和健康问题，所以，正如我提到的，这是一个非常受欢迎的问题。
Cobra:I'm not expecting any big improvements in the next, I would say two months or so. Then we'll see.
Debra:So there is a possibility of things improving after that time?
Debra:Okay. At the Taipei conference, you said about creating abundance, "Once you start doing your missions, you can use the energy of St. Germain to get the abundance you need." Many Lightworkers who think they're doing their life mission lack prosperity, so would you please speak why this is so? And what can assist, including how do you use the energy of St. Germain to help? Is there any chance that the collateral funds created by St. Germain for the active Lightworkers could be released before the Event?
黛布拉：好的。在台北会议上，你谈到了创造富足，"一旦你开始执行任务，你就可以利用 St. Germain 的能量来获得你所需要的富足。"许多光之工作者认为他们正在完成他们的人生使命，缺乏繁荣，所以请你说说为什么会这样？有什么可以帮助，包括你如何利用 St. Germain 的能量来帮助？St. Germain 为活跃的光之工作者创造的抵押资金有没有可能在事件发生之前被释放？
Cobra:Okay. I would say that Lightworkers have a lot of things to process inside. The state of consciousness of Lightworkers is not as good as it was expected. There is a lot of inner work that needs to be done, and after that inner work is done, then the Lightworkers can have a channel strong enough and pure enough to manifest abundance. So, inner work is number one at this point.
Debra:And a little later in the interview, we're going to talk about some of that healing and inner work too.
Cobra:And about the collateral funds, it's extremely unlikely this will be released before the Event.
Debra:Thank you for clarifying that. In addition to the biochips monitoring us, we understand that the physical plane is further monitored and mind controlled through scalar network, created with cell phone towers, cell phones themselves, and Wi-Fi networks. Is there anything we can do at this point to decrease this? And also, what's the update on 5G and its dangers?
黛布拉：谢谢你澄清这一点。除了监控我们的生物芯片之外，我们还了解到物理平面是通过标量网络进一步监控和精神控制的，这些标量网络是由手机信号塔、手机本身和 Wi-Fi 网络创建的。现在我们能做些什么来减少这种情况吗？另外，关于5G 及其危险的最新消息是什么？
Cobra:If you feel so guided, you can do a mass meditation to counteract those networks. That's always beneficial. 5G network is growing. It's not being stopped, but it's growing slowly. It is growing slower than the dark forces wanted. So there are some operations in place to counteract that, but not much can be said about it at this point.
Debra:Okay, thank you. And just to get a little bit more clarity, you mentioned doing a mass meditation for some of these, you know, Wi-Fi and cell phones and things like that, this control through the scalar network. Would you suggest that we just surrounded ourselves in like a bubble of light that doesn't allow those scalar waves to reach us? Or how do you suggest this meditation be done?
Cobra:It can be part of the meditation, it can be your own protection, creating a bubble around your energy field. And the second part can be putting all those networks into the Violet Flame and visualizing them being disintegrated.
Debra:Fantastic, thank you. And so, poisoning is taking place all over the planet, you know, our air, food, water. How can we best protect ourselves? Is there any chance that the Light Forces will come up with a protocol to help us cleanse and detox ourselves so that we can stay as healthy as possible before the Event?
Cobra:You can always use the Violet Flame. You can drink as pure water as possible, and you can spend some time in nature.
Debra:Good. thank you. Can burying cintamani stones help, even with things like weather modifications or decreasing harmful insects like mosquitoes?
Cobra:Yes, of course. For example, in Beijing the Lightworkers have created a strong cintamani grid. And as a result, there is much less fog. In Taiwan, they have deflected typhoons. There are now almost zero typhoons, zero harmful hurricanes reaching the island in the last few years. So cintamani grids can influence the physical reality.
Debra:Thank you. And as you know, there's so much disclosure disinformation out there, even from alternative media sources. How much of this is the White Hat's great awakening disclosure, and how much is accelerated New World Order agenda?
Cobra:Since the collapse of the alpha timeline in 2018, there is almost zero intel out there. So, in that vacuum, most of what is out there is disinformation. And in a way, it will be better just to switch off social media, switch off the internet, and spend your time with your higher self. You will be much better off.
Debra:Yeah, thank you for saying that. I mean, people are going crazy… "Oh, this person's been arrested and this person's a clone and …" Yeah, I agree. What about, though, some of the big players on the world stage that we really can't ignore? You know, many people are confused as to which side they're on, and you've talked about them in the past, fluctuating between light and dark … I'm talking about Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Vladimir Putin specifically. Can you give us an update on the current status of each of those?
黛布拉：是啊，谢谢你这么说。我是说，人们都疯了... "哦，这个人被逮捕了，这个人是个克隆人..."是的，我同意。那么，世界舞台上那些我们无法忽视的大玩家们呢？你知道，很多人对自己站在哪一边感到困惑，你过去也谈论过他们，在光明和黑暗之间摇摆... ... 我特别指的是唐纳德 · 特朗普、埃隆 · 马斯克和弗拉基米尔 · 普京。你能告诉我们每个项目的最新进展吗？
Cobra:Basically the status of all three is they are fluctuating between light and dark still.
Debra:Well hopefully the movement will go toward the light as more light comes to the planet. And you recently mentioned Tucker Carlson in an update and how he addressed the issue of media censorship about UFO phenomenon. Can you tell us if he's working on the side of light or is he simply controlled opposition?
黛布拉：希望随着更多的光进入这个星球，这个运动会朝着光的方向发展。你最近在一次更新中提到了塔克-卡尔森以及他是如何解决媒体对 UFO 现象的审查问题的。你能告诉我们他是站在光明的一边，还是只是在控制对手？
Cobra:Again, there is a mixture of light and dark within him, but some of his actions are quite okay. Recently, he has addressed some issues that nobody else would inside of the mainstream, which is good.
Debra:Yeah, very good. And just recently, very recently, the Schumann resonance showed a very odd, unusual pattern. We're wondering is if this is anything of significance? People are speculating it has to do with solar activities and geomagnetic movement of the poles, possibly actions of the Light Forces, collective consciousness, or even possibly just a glitch. Can you offer any insight on what that was about?
Cobra:It's a glitch.
Debra:Thank you for clarifying. Okay. Are there still two time timelines? And if so, what's the biggest distinction between the two? And can you describe what each of them looks like?
Cobra:What two timelines?
Debra:Well, like will we coexist in two different timelines? Some people believe that there is a positive one and a negative one, and we'll be simultaneously living together in these.
Debra:No? Okay, thank you. And before the Event, are Bubbles of Heaven still a possibility even with all the chaos on the planet?
Cobra:After the collapse of the beta timeline, this is not possible anymore.
3.THE EVENT AND GALACTIC SUPERWAVE
Debra:Thank you for clarifying that too. So, speaking of the Event, I'd like to move into speaking a little more specifically about that, and also the Galactic Superwave as well. Can you explain more why the Light Forces have communicated that the process of the Event may be much more chaotic than originally expected? You know, many Lightworkers have imagined the Event as being a glorious moment where everything suddenly becomes better, which sounds like a rather unrealistic expectation at this point. So can you offer us clarification that may be a little more realistic?
Cobra:Okay. The Light Forces have underestimated the amount of darkness on this planet and have overestimated the amount of light inside of the Lightworkers. So as a result of all this, it'll be much more chaotic. The whole process will be quite chaotic. People will go through quite intense processing. There will be a lot of dysfunctional behavior, but also there will be a lot of light, because light has not been present on this planet for thousands of years. And it'll be a big contrast between the light, which will be present and a very strong purification. So this is what is expected now.
Debra:Is it safe to say that awakened Lightworkers, you know, those who have been aware of the situation and have been doing their inner healing and working on themselves, will they have a much easier time? They won't have that dramatic shock and everything that will take place?
Cobra:They might not have a shock on certain aspects, but they might have a shock on other aspects, which they have neglected in the past. I would say there are almost zero Lightworkers on the surface of the planet which are ready at this point completely. And they will still need to go through their inner process. They will still need to face everything inside. And it'll be in a way very beneficial, very healing, but also quite challenging.
Debra:Okay. Because I think many think that they'll breeze through it and they'll be helping people and having a calm head. And, by what you're saying, they may be experiencing their own stuff, at least for a while, initially?
Debra:And I assume that there will be support, Galactic support, you know maybe also from the Resistance Movement? But the Light Forces themselves will be helping humanity through this time?
Cobra:Yes, there will be support and this is why it'll be much easier.
Debra:Right, and I know that's also one of the missions of Sisterhood of the Rose, at the time of the Event, to anchor much light and to meditate for a very calm transition. So what will be distinct signs be that the Event is near? Can you give us a clue to that?
Cobra:Okay. There will be very strong energies of light flowing through, which will be undeniable. There might be some quite drastic news in the media, but basically those who are connected with the light will feel, there will be a certain very distinct and very clear feeling that something very strong is going to happen.
Debra:So it'll be more of an intuitive internal sign versus physical signs?
Cobra:There might be physical signs, but it's impossible to predict because the situation is quite unstable and chaotic.
Debra:Okay. Will we be telepathically contacted or possibly physically contacted by the Light Forces prior to the Event as Lightworkers?
Cobra:I would say certain people will be energetically contacted. About the physical contact, I cannot talk yet.
Debra:Okay, thank you. Regarding the graph that you posted showing the increased entropy of the surface society intersecting with the decreased entropy of the Event, how extensive will the entropy on the surface of the planet have to go before this intersection point can occur?
Cobra:Okay, this is the question everybody has. This is the question the Light Forces have, this is the question I have, and this is the question some people have. Nobody knows.
Debra:<Laugh>, I'm laughing because, yeah, I've had a lot of people submit something like that, like how bad will it get? So, okay, thank you. In a recent update, you did offer some clarification on the timing of the Event and the chronological order of things, so we do thank you very much for this, since there's been so much confusion regarding this timeline and chronological order. But I'd like to go a little deeper, a little further clarification. So you speculated the Event happening during 2025, with the process of mass arrests, financial reset, intel release, et cetera, taking a week or two. Then after this one to two week period, the surface population will be gradually informed about the coming polar shift. And human society will go through a rather brutal awakening process, as you called it.
And this is when the Islands of Light will be created, and they will be really the only peaceful zones on the planet. You indicated this is expected to take a few months, and then the Galactic Superwave that triggers the polar shift hits the planet. So initially, we were expecting several years between the Event and the polar shift, but now it appears that the timeframe to be very short, like only a few months. In the past, you've talked about a convergence point of many cycles that will erase darkness from this universe taking place in 2025. Can you speak about more about the significance of 2025 and the convergence of these cycles?
Cobra:Can you be more specific? What do you want to know?
Debra:Well, basically, so many people are talking about 2025, and why 2025? And you seemed quite clear, you made your educated guess that the Event and potentially the Galactic Superwave would happen in 2025. So why 2025?
Cobra:Okay. As I said many times on my blog, it's a convergence of quite strong cosmic cycles. There is the Sirius cycle. There is the Neptune, Uranus, Pluto cycle. There are other cycles taking place, and all those converge in 2025. So this is a very strong marker and the energies coming will be extremely strong. So this is the marker we are waiting for.
Debra:Okay, thank you. So it's very much centered around astrological alignments and such. Is there a chance that the Event could not happen until after 2025, or even much, much later than 2025? Or is it quite certain it would happen before 2025 passes?
Cobra:I would not speculate on the timeframes.
Debra:Okay. And I'm going to ask the same thing about the polar shift. Is there a chance it could happen much later? Or even, let me ask you, is there a possibility that the cleansing of the planet caused by the polar shift, such as this mile high tsunami and major earthquakes, is it possible it will not need to happen and that planet Earth and humanity can cleanse and evolve without this dramatic shift?
Cobra:No, this is not possible. It will have to happen. There is no way this civilization can be transformed without the polar shift and the tsunami. It's not possible.
Debra:Thank you for clarifying that. Does our behavior after the Event affect the timing of the pole shift? And is there any benefit to speeding it up or slowing it down?
Cobra:I would say just use your inner guidance. Connect with the light as much as you can, and don't worry about everything else. Things will proceed as they proceed. It's not beneficial to artificially speed up or slow down the whole process.
Debra:Okay. So to clarify, are both the Event and the polar shift triggered by Galactic pulses or solar flashes? With the second one, the one that triggers the tsunami being referenced as a Galactic Superwave, just a bigger one than the first, correct?
Debra:Okay. Does the three days of darkness refer to what will happen at the time of the Galactic Superwave? Or if not, what does it refer to?
Cobra:Three days of darkness refer to a certain phase of the micronova process when the star which goes through a micronova phase drastically drops the visible light visibility. And it appears to be dark for a few days. This is just before the solar flash happens. The sun appears to be dark, appears almost not to shine, and then the sudden flash happens. So this is referring to that particular phase of the micronova process.
Debra:And you're referencing the second solar flash, the Galactic Superwave? [Yes.] Okay, thank you. Will this Galactic Superwave, this polar shift, take the planet to the fifth dimension? Or is it just an end of era geological or astrological shift?
Cobra:It is an end-of-era geological and astrological shift, combined with a cosmic cycle conversion, which involves the planetary Ascension process. So this is a convergence of geological, astrological, and cosmic cycles. It's all, all in one.
Debra:Wow, very big. Astrologers and biophysicists talk about the fact that because of the magnetic field weakening, more people will awaken and realize that truth is easier. Is there really a connection between magnetic field weakening and easier awakening?
Cobra:I would not agree with that.
Debra:Okay, thank you. So obviously the dark forces know about the pole shift. So why are they going through all the trouble to depopulate the planet and set up all their surveillance and control systems? Is it to create fear and negative emotions so that they can keep their energy strong, or is there another benefit to them to push these nefarious agendas?
Cobra:There is a need-to-know structure within the dark forces. Only the top, very top members of the dark forces know about the polar shift. The rest of them, they don't; they are expecting this show to go on and they believe through depopulation of the planet, they can keep the control. And I would say the number of people in dark networks that have an evidence about the pole shift is less than a few thousand. Everybody else is just speculating.
Debra:Interesting. Wow, I mean, more intel will be leaking out about the pole shift, and it just makes you wonder how people will react to this, I guess we'll find out. So with the timeframe shortened between the Event and the pole shift, will things like free energy, food replicators, and med beds still be released to the surface population, or will the focus be primarily on just managing the chaos and the brutal awakening of the surface population?
Cobra:Free energy, food replicators, and med beds will be very much needed to reduce the suffering of human population. So they will be distributed as fast as possible after the Event.
Debra:Fantastic. And also, with the timeframe shortened, how likely would First Contact occur? In the past, it was speculated it would be about a year after the Event. But could it now happen shortly after the Event, or possibly even before?
Cobra:The Light Forces are now leaning towards making the First Contact as soon as possible after the Event. I would say as soon as the surface population can process much of the fact this can happen. There might be incidences or individuals contacted even before, and there are certain plans to push that even sooner. So I would say that many, many groups have an interest to make this First Contact happen as soon as possible.
Debra:Okay, good, thank you. So let's talk about the Islands of Light that'll be created by the Pleiadians on the planet after the Event. How will it be determined who can go to these prior to the pole shift, and how many inhabitants could they host at that time?
Cobra:Islands of Light will be surrounded by certain vibrational technology, and if you're able to sustain that particular frequency without harm to your body and energy field, you'll be able to go there.
Debra:Interesting. So basically it's about raising your vibration and doing your inner work, right?
Cobra:Yes. And this will be small communities. This will not be a lot of people. This will be just for those who are ready.
Debra:Can you give us an approximate number when you say small?
Cobra:I would say, planetary speaking – it's not easy to predict because we don't know how the status of awakening will be – but I can guess a few tens of thousands of people throughout the whole planet.
Debra:And will there be multiple Islands of Light or one central location?
Cobra:They will be growing organically as the consciousness awakens.
Debra:Will these people living in the Islands of Light still have interactions with the rest of humanity? I mean, will they be still involved and play a role in helping society transition after the Event and to prepare for the polar shift? And will they be able to take their loved ones with them?
Cobra:Some of those people will be in contact with the outer world. Some of them will anchor energies inside of the Islands of Light. And they will only be able to take their loved ones inside of the Island of Light if those people will, again, be ready to sustain that vibration.
Debra:Oh, interesting. And from the Islands of Light, if they are interacting with the human society, will they be playing a role at that point in helping people prepare and transition?
Cobra:Yes, of course.
Debra:Okay. In 2019 you wrote, "This mile high tsunami wave will effectively purge from the surface of the planet all impurities that still need to be purged. Needless to say, all Islands of Light and all Areas of Light will be completely unaffected by the tsunami wave as they will be protected with advanced technologies given to us by positive races after the Event." So will these people witness the cleansing of the planet as well as be able to return after it's safe to build the New Earth? And any idea how long that would be?
Cobra:They will be able to witness the cleansing of the planet. They might be teleported on the ships or they might stay inside of the domes of the Islands of Light for the time of the tsunami wave. And they will be able to return very soon and build the New Earth.
Debra:And I assume that at that point there will be much support from the Light Forces in terms of technology to do that, because obviously there won't be anything left on the planet?
Cobra:Oh, yes, of course. At that point, the Light Forces, the Confederation fleet, the Pleiadean fleets, will be quite active.
Debra:Okay, good. So as we understand, the majority of people will not be in the Islands of Light, as you said, before the pole shift, but those that are ready will have the opportunity to be evacuated from the planet by the Light Forces to their large motherships, and then will be transferred to a planet similar to Earth in the Pleiades. What does it mean to be ready for evacuation and what will happen to those who are not ready to be evacuated?
Cobra:It means that you are willing to go. It means that you're not afraid. There is a lot of fear, a lot of programming among the so-called Lightworkers, about the evacuation process, which has been done in the last few decades. And people who are afraid will not be lifted. And if they are hit by a super wave, of course they will have to leave their physical body behind and then they will be evacuated without a physical body.
Debra:What if someone is aware, but let's say they are a nefarious person – I'm not talking like really bad, like Cabal or anything – but I'm just saying if they're not a good person in their heart, but they're willing to go, would they still be able to be evacuated?
Cobra:They would be evacuated, then they would be taken to location, I would say, the planet that is intended for such beings and they will not be able to return to Earth.
Debra:Okay, thank you. So before the general evacuation of the surface population takes place, is it possible that some Lightworkers who are sufficiently healed and fully aligned with the light could already be teleported to the Galactic Confederation's mothership via the ATVOR technology of the pillars of light?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢。因此，在地表人口大规模撤离发生之前，是否有可能一些已经完全治愈并与光完全一致的光之工作者已经可以通过光柱的 ATVOR 技术被传送到银河联盟的母舰上？
Cobra:Yes, that's possible. Actually it's part of the plan. There are no guarantees it will happen, but it's part of the plan.
Debra:And so it's a possibility to either be teleported to a mothership prior to the evacuation or go to an Island of Light?
Cobra:That might be possible, but I would say most of the teleportations before the Event probably will happen through the Islands of Light.
Debra:Okay, thank you. Are the anti-gravitational pillars of ATVOR technology the only means of planetary evacuation envisioned by the Galactic Confederation, or will there be other evacuation devices such as the underground bases being proposed?
黛布拉：好的，谢谢。ATVOR 技术的反重力支柱是银河联盟设想的行星疏散的唯一手段吗? 还是会有其他的疏散装置，比如正在提议的地下基地？
Cobra:Of course there are backup plans. Much of this is still classified. I cannot go deeper into this, but I would say there are backup plans.
Debra:Okay. Will those transferred to the Pleiades also have the opportunity to later return to help build the New Earth?
Cobra:If their vibrational frequency will be high enough to exist on the New Earth, yes.
Debra:And what about the population of the Resistance Movement and other Agartha factions; at the time of the polar shift will they also be evacuated, or will they remain in their bases during the cataclysm? And will the majority of the members of the Resistance Movement achieve their Ascension process, or will it only concern a minority of them?
黛布拉：那么抵抗运动和其他阿加莎派系的人口呢? 在极移时，他们也会被疏散吗? 或者在大灾变期间，他们会留在自己的基地吗？抵抗运动的大多数成员是否会实现他们的扬升进程，或者这只关系到他们中的一小部分人？
Cobra:The underground bases of the Resistance Movement are strong enough to sustain the polar shift so they will not need to be evacuated. Of course, if they wish they can, but the bases themselves will be safe. And those people are mostly ready to be ascended, so they will go through their own Ascension process by their own free will.
Debra:So I have a few more questions about Ascension. In the revised and updated Ascension plan, the first wave of Ascension is scheduled to occur shortly before the Galactic Superwave and planetary evacuation. In view of the many delays in the planetary liberation process and the fast-approaching polar shift, is this first wave of Ascension still on schedule? Are there any plans for the current version of the Ascension plan to be further revised and updated by the Light Forces?
Cobra:The plan is constantly in flux. At this point, the first wave is scheduled at the moment of the polar shift, but the numbers going through that first wave are a little bit smaller. At this point, it seems that'll be just a small number of people who will be able to ascend. So at this point, it's not possible to tell because the plan has been changed so many times. There are so many factors involved. But the general plan of the Ascension waves is still the same, but the timing and sequence of the events can change.
Debra:So the people on the Islands of Light, are they the people that would make up the first wave of Ascension?
Debra:And then would they come back later as Ascended masters to assist the planet to build the New Earth?
Cobra:If they wish.
Debra:Will there be some of those people in the Islands of Light that will not, let's say, qualify for first wave? Will they comprise second and third waves?
Cobra:Yes. But current plan is for the second and first waves to be more of a cosmic experience, not just focused on this planet, but I would say more of a Galactic and cosmic experience.
Debra:So the people who were evacuated and transported to the Pleiades would also make up second and third waves?
Debra:Okay. Did you, I'm not sure if I missed it, did you state how many are estimated to be in the first wave? I think you mentioned it was very few. Can you give us an approximation?
Cobra:Before, the original estimate was about 1000 to 2000 people, but most likely will be less.
Debra:Interesting. Yes, I do recall you saying it was [originally] about 2000 people, and it's interesting that it would actually be less and not more at this point. So once ascended, is it being considered an Ascended master, or is there still further training after Ascension that they would need to do?
Cobra:There is no end to growth. So after your Ascension, there is continuous growth and continuous spiritual expansion taking place.
Debra:Okay. But as an Ascended master, you are considered a fifth dimensional being, is that correct?
Debra:Okay, what percentage of Lightworkers were Ascended masters before incarnation on 3D Earth?
Cobra:Actually, all of the Lightworkers were ascended long time before they came here. And they went through very strong implantation process and strong forgetting process.
Debra:So can we assume that for many people this will be their last 3D incarnation?
Cobra:3D incarnations, as we know them here, will not exist anywhere in this universe anymore. It'll be a different process. It'll be a much more conscious birth process and it'll be different. It'll not be so dense, it'll not be so programmed. This will be gone forever.
Debra:That's interesting that throughout the entire universe, there will be no more 3D incarnations. So what allows some star seed's veils to be thinner and to develop spiritually at accelerated speeds, like Jesus? Was he able to escape being implanted at incarnation?
Cobra:He was not able to escape being implanted, but he was, I would say, one of the beings who managed to go through their evolution the fastest.
Debra:And why is that?
Cobra:Personal choices, circumstances, many factors were involved.
Debra:Interesting. Was it preplanned that he would be able to have this accelerated speed prior to his incarnation?
Cobra:It was a possibility; it was not sure. It was not 100% clear this will happen, but it was a successful plan.
Debra:Was he already ascended before his physical death? Is that why he could create miracles and such? And what was the purpose of him going through the crucifixion process, was it to teach or demonstrate something for humanity?
Cobra:Crucifixion process was, I would say, a dark initiation orchestrated by the dark forces. And it had absolutely no value or teaching to humanity. It was just a manifestation of suffering, which was not part of the life plan.
Debra:And so why was it he could do all of his miracles, was it because he had already ascended?
Cobra:He had not ascended yet at this point before his death, but he had a strong spiritual channel and he had assistance of the extraterrestrial races and their technology.
Debra:What about Saint Germain, who was known as an outstanding alchemist? Are he and Francis Bacon, who is the author of "The New Atlantis", are they one and the same incarnation? And did he as Comte de Saint Germain, having achieved his Ascension at the end of the 18th century, did he succeed in dissolving his primary implants by very advanced alchemical processes or by a hierogamic union with one of his soulmates?
黛布拉：圣日耳曼呢? 他是一位杰出的炼金术士？他和《新亚特兰蒂斯》的作者弗朗西斯 · 培根是同一个人吗？作为圣日耳曼伯爵，他在18世纪末实现了他的扬升，他是否成功地通过非常先进的炼金术过程或通过与他的灵魂伴侣之一的象形文字结合来溶解他的主要植入物？
Cobra:Francis Bacon and Saint Germain are two incarnations of the same being. And yes, before he ascended, he dissolved his implants by alchemical processes and by Sacred Union with one of his soulmates in France.
柯博拉：弗朗西斯 · 培根和圣日耳曼是同一个存在的两个化身。是的，在他扬升之前，他通过炼金术的方法溶解了他的植入物通过神圣联盟和他在法国的一个灵魂伴侣。
Debra:Interesting. Can you speak of the role of Earth's Ascension, like what does it mean for the universe?
Cobra:Fortunately, or unfortunately, planet Earth is the focal point for this cosmic process, so cosmic darkness is being processed through this planet. And Earth's Ascension means actually cosmic Ascension, which regards the end of darkness and the beginning of a new cycle of life.
Debra:So we're pretty famous in the universe, huh?
Cobra:Fortunately, or unfortunately, yes.
Debra:Right, it depends how you look at it. So, some good news, since the successful Portal of Light Activation, is that the reincarnation cycle is no longer controlled by the dark forces. As Lightworkers, we have prepared many lifetimes for this historic time, knowing that we would play an important role. So what now happens if a lightworker physically dies prior to the Breakthrough? Would they ascend and take on another body? Would they be able to come back in either a new body or the body of their last incarnation to help recreate the New Earth? Or would they play that role in the non-physical form?
Cobra:It is not so easy. It means that if you die, you'll find yourself on the "day-after" war zone of the etheric plane, which looks like a desert now. You would probably be quite disoriented. If you're lucky, you would get connection with your spiritual guides. If you're not, there are still some reptilian entities there, so it's not yet heaven there. And you would need to rely to your own inner connection with your own spiritual connection to get to higher planes and then decide either to take a new body or stay there. But at this point, it is much easier to stay in the physical body because this accelerates the process the most. And it's going to be quite interesting, and I don't think we have been going through this just to end it. I think we have been going through this to have finally the big reward we all deserve. So we have to stay here, go through this, and then receive the final reward on the physical plane in this incarnation.
Debra:Completely agree. Are the Light Forces helping us in this way in terms of keeping us protected? You know, because many active Lightworkers are targeted and such. Do the Light Forces … are we on their radar, and are they protecting us in that way to help keep us safe so that we can be here for the big Event?
Cobra:Yes. They protect us as much as they can.
Debra:Yes, of course. Okay, with the reincarnation cycle not controlled anymore, will it now be possible to incarnate with a twin soul and soul families?
Cobra:Theoretically, yes. If somebody's right now on the etheric plane together with his twin soul, they could both theoretically incarnate at the same time, in the same area. That would be possible.
5.SOUL FAMILIES AND TWIN SOULS
Debra:I'd like to talk to you a little bit about soul families and twin souls. Many are feeling called to find their tribe, their soul family. Are there specific things we can do to prepare for this, and how can we create the safest possible place for soul family members and soulmates to meet and heal prior to the Islands of Light?
Cobra:I would say at this stage, people would just need to go do their inner work and make their personalities a little bit more presentable. That's number one right now.
Debra:Make their personalities more presentable. Is that what you said?
Debra:Thank you, interesting. In a previous interview, you've mentioned that the Resistance Movement are doing certain activities that will lead to the meeting of soulmates and twin souls, but there's a physical aspect which needs to be addressed first after the Lords of Karma are removed. So can you elaborate about that physical aspect, and is it now being addressed?
Cobra:This is still classified information.
Debra:Okay, thank you. What are the right conditions for soulmates and twin souls to meet physically? Has there been any development that makes it a little bit easier now that some of the darkness is removed? Is it safe, or will chances continue to increase before the Event of making these connections?
Cobra:No, we are not there yet.
Debra:Okay, so are you saying it's likely that most won't meet a soulmate or a twin soul prior to the Event?
Cobra:Exactly. Some people might meet their soulmates, but twin souls, it's extremely unlikely.
Debra:Right. Does this soulmate channel the energy of our twin, is this what a primary soulmate is?
Debra:And we know that soulmate or twin soul Sacred Union can help speed up the path to the Event and Ascension. Can this be done from a distance or even telepathically if we feel our twin is not incarnated on the planet, and especially if we're not being allowed to meet?
Cobra:This can be done from a distance to a degree, yes.
Debra:Okay. And if we feel that our twin may be, let's say, in the Resistance Movement or on a mothership someplace, we can telepathically communicate with them and create a type of Sacred Union?
Debra:Is it necessary for twin souls to be reunited to ascend, or what if one is ready and one is not? Can they ascend individually?
Cobra:Actually the very nature of Ascension process will bring the twin souls together, and yes it's possible for one of them to ascend before the other one.
Debra:But I'm sure it happens quicker if they're united.
Cobra:Yes, of course.
Debra:Okay. With the physical planes now clear, are conditions improving for romantic relationships? Many Lightworkers have remained single due to this interference and some even celibate due to the portal created during sex where negative entities can enter. Do dark forces still have that degree of interference they have had in the past to cause problems and disharmony between couples?
Cobra:I would say the danger of entities during sex is much less because the etheric grid has been destroyed, the negative grid has been destroyed. But for the heart connections to get better, there needs to be influx of light, which is not happening yet.
Debra:And I'm sure with the dissolving of the implant in the navel area, that truly helps – you know, the one that was limiting the ability of connecting our heart with our sexual centers.
Cobra:Yes, yes, exactly.
Debra:In the context of a hierogamic union between two soulmates or twin souls, can you explain the occult link between kundalini, the androgynous energy of pure unity that culminates in orgasm and spiritual regeneration? Until the Light Forces began to cleanse our implants, was the powerful androgynous energy of love the only one that could powerfully draw out and dissolve the primary implants, allowing access to Arhat initiation and the advanced phases of the Ascension process?
Cobra:This still remains the most effective and the most powerful way towards the Arhat initiation. This has not changed.
Debra:Thank you. How would you describe a kundalini awakening? Is it sudden and obvious, or can it happen slowly and mildly over time? And is it necessary to have this experience to evolve or ascend? And what can we do to create this experience?
Cobra:Kundalini awakening is a natural occurrence that happens at some point during the Ascension process. It's not the goal. It is actually something that happens along the path. And it is not advisable to force this. It'll happen when you're ready.
Debra:But considering that we are on an Ascension path, it can happen now, we don't have to wait for the Event?
Cobra:Yes, it can happen at any moment.
6.DIVINE FEMININE AND GODDESS ENERGY
Debra:Thank you. Okay, let's speak a little bit about the divine feminine and Goddess energy in regard to some of this. How can we explore sensuality and sacred sexuality to anchor more divine feminine Goddess energy? Can you share some ideas both for those with a partner and those without?
Cobra:The key here is for you to be honest with yourself and allow the exploration of your own sexual energy. And when you are familiar with your own sexual energy, you can connect it with the heart energy, with or without a partner.
Debra:And when you say familiar with your own sexual energy, what do you mean by that?
Cobra:By exploring it, by allowing it, by being honest about what kind of energy that is and allowing it to flow. And when it begins to flow, it can connect with the heart energy and create a, I would say, alchemical union within your energy field.
Debra:And you've indicated in the past, I believe, that this exploration doesn't necessarily have to happen through a sexual experience. It can be done through various ways, even such as dancing and such, correct?
Debra:Back in 2018, you wrote, "Sacred Union is merging of spiritual, mental, emotional, etheric, plasma and physical bodies of soulmates and twin souls. Such merger creates a moment of no time when the veil is pierced, and this moment if expanded is the key to physical immortality and/or Ascension." And then you also wrote, "As we approach the moment of Compression Breakthrough, some of the most awakened priestesses will start using the energy of the Sacred Union to heal others and to channel Goddess energies into the planetary light grid." Is this something that has begun, and does this take place only between soulmates or twin souls? Is the moment of Breakthrough connected to the energies of Sacred Union? Can you elaborate more on this, please?
Cobra:I would say that some beings were able to create those moments of Sacred Union that have created cracks in the veil, but it was much, much less than the Light Forces expected. So at some point in the future when there is enough light present, this will expand, but we were not there yet.
Debra:Okay, thank you. What's the difference between ancient temple prostitutes and modern professional prostitutes?
Cobra:Actually, ancient temple prostitutes were not prostitutes in the modern sense of the word. They were women which were initiated into the Goddess mysteries and were channeling sexual energy for healing. We all know what modern professional prostitutes are; it's far from how it was hundreds and thousands of years ago. This energy has degenerated quite much, especially in the last few hundred years.
Debra:Yes, absolutely. Thank you for clarifying that. Speaking of these mystery teachings, you've said that after the Event that Goddess mystery teachings will begin to be revealed. Is this to everyone or primarily those anchoring Goddess energy? And is there any likelihood that anything would be revealed before the Event?
Cobra:I would say some basic teachings will be open to everybody, and more advanced teachings will be for those who have an inclination and interest in anchoring the Goddess energy. And it is very unlikely that much of this will happen before the Event. Maybe just before the Event, but I would say not much before the Event.
Debra:Is Sacred Union and Sacred Sexuality a primary topic of these teachings? And if so, why is that?
Cobra:It is one of the main topics, but not the only one.
Debra:Okay. And in our last interview prior to the Portal of Light Activation, you indicated that there was very little Goddess energy on the planet. Has there been a shift since then?
Cobra:I would say it's a little bit better, but not much better.
Debra:Can we get an update on how the Goddess temple project is going? And for those who don't have the resources to create a public temple, is a private temple in your own home still contributing Goddess energy to the planet?
Cobra:There are a few Goddess temples, which have been created, so this is nice. And those who cannot create a public temple, a private temple is still better than nothing.
Debra:Thank you. How is it that temples are dedicated to either a Goddess or to a God, but never to a Goddess and a God together? Isn't the goal to bring back the harmony of the divine feminine and divine masculine? So why not create a temple linked to a divine couple to balance the two energies?
Cobra:That's actually a very good idea. And for those who have been able to balance those energies inside of themselves, that's an interesting task in the future.
Debra:You currently indicated that there's not a high priestess on the planet. Will this happen before the Event, after the Event? At any point will this Earth, as we know it now, have a high priestess again?
Cobra:This is classified information.
Debra:Okay. What about a high priest?
Cobra:This is also classified.
Debra:Okay, thank you. In the past, you've talked about female members of the Pleiadian fleet and the Resistance Movement that are positioned on an asteroid in the outer Solar System, and they're there to relay Goddess energy from the Galactic Central Sun towards the Earth to assist in harmonizing humanity. Have these female Lightworkers received reinforcements at all from the Galactic Federation of Light or other star systems and have they expanded their bases of operations? Will they create energetic connections with Sisterhood of the Rose groups on the surface of the planet during the Event, when things will get volatile and Sisterhood of the Rose groups are expected to meditate, to help calm things?
Cobra:Okay, there was a lot of improvement about those members of the Pleiadian fleet and Resistance Movement. Those priestesses have received a lot of support and their network is much stronger throughout the Solar System and below the surface of the planet. And they will contact Sisterhood of the Rose groups after the Event, then give certain instructions.
Debra:Thank you. Do you have suggestions to give Sisterhood the Rose an energy boost? In our current timeline, we've noticed a decrease in groups and participation, and it's more important than ever now to build the Goddess energy.
Cobra:I would say that enough subquantum anomaly needs to be removed so that a new positive energy wave of Goddess energy comes from the Galactic Center to the planet. And this will be a new inspiration to create more groups.
Debra:Okay, so kind of keep going, and as you said, possibly even in a few months, things might improve. Will there be any new invocations or meditations for the Sisterhood of the Rose groups that may help manifest the Event in the most peaceful and harmonious way? Or maybe even to help emotional wounding?
Cobra:That's possible at a later stage.
7.HEALING AND PROTECTION
Debra:Thank you, we look forward to that. So we're going to end this by talking about healing emotional wounds, some healing and protection questions. In our last interview, you indicated that during the time that Pluto temporarily returns to Capricorn, which it did on June 11th until early 2024, it would be a good opportunity for everyone to work on their shadows and prepare for a final push until the Event. How would you describe shadow work to people? Because many people are confused, they don't understand it.
Cobra:I would say being honest with yourself, and whatever you find inside, just first allow yourself to acknowledge it, feel it, experience it, and transform it.
Debra:Okay, because I was going to ask you, what are some effective ways for people to work on that? Is it about making higher consciousness prevail over our personal wounds?
Cobra:There are many healing modalities, healing techniques. You can use the Violet Flame, you can use certain healing meditations, emotional healing techniques, various therapies. You can use all that to transform those wounds.
Debra:Okay. How can the Goddess help us with this?
Cobra:If you invoke Goddess energy, the presence of the Goddess energy can actually help healing those wounds.
Debra:So that would be an important aspect for anyone doing some shadow work, is to call in the Goddess.
Cobra:Can you repeat that?
Debra:Oh, I just said that might be an essential step in anyone doing healing work of their emotional wounds to call in the Goddess.
Debra:Do you know why so many Lightworkers are not willing to do the work to heal their shadows and traumas? In their mind they know it's important, but when it comes to actually taking physical actions and doing the healing, they're simply avoiding it?
Cobra:No, I don't know that. I quite frankly do not understand the surface Lightworkers on this planet. There are many things they do which make no sense. So you need to ask somebody else.
Debra:<Laugh>. Sorry, I'm laughing, but yeah, I agree. Many people, especially Lightworkers, have significant wounding in their heart chakra causing it to close. What suggestions do you have to open and heal this important chakra so that we can fully love ourselves and others, and therefore contribute to the light grid of the planet?
Cobra:First we need to create a safe space where that opening and healing can happen. So this is number one. And when the safe space is manifested, then the transformation can occur and the heart chakra can open again.
Debra:Any guidance on how to create that safe space?
Cobra:First you need to make a decision, and you can go through a manifestation process of the safe space, like with everything else.
Debra:Okay, thank you. How do you explain the dark night of the soul? And is it necessary to experience this to heal?
Cobra:It is not necessary, but unfortunately it happens a lot. Part of this is artificially done by dark technology. Part of this is just a process of facing inner shadows. So it's a mixed situation. And it is absolutely not necessary. It can happen. If it happens, just go through it and then there'll be the light at the end of the tunnel.
Debra:Okay, thank you. In your recent update, you mentioned that if someone raises their vibrational frequency too much, the physical biochips detect this and their vibration will then be lowered by physical and emotional repercussions. Yet our goal is to raise our vibration to heal ourselves and our planet. So what are we to do? Is there a safe zone? And how do most enlightened beings manage this?
Cobra:The key here is balance. So if you are raising your vibration, do it in a balanced way. And in this way, you will not create spikes in alarms in the dark network. You will just raise your vibration in harmony, and this is much less detectable.
Debra:And when you say in balance, can you elaborate a little bit more about that?
Cobra:It means not being overly hyped. It means if you have a very high vibration, you can do it in a balanced way. Simply, the key is balance.
Debra:I see, okay. Does having a strong connection with Source help with protection from this?
Cobra:Yes, of course.
Debra:With the clearing of the nonphysical planes, is it still recommended that we do protection for our nonphysical bodies in addition to our physical self, like we do in the protection protocol meditation? I imagine just by living in the matrix, our nonphysical bodies still need to be cleared. Is that right?
Cobra:Of course. Basically, clearing is still needed.
Debra:Thank you. And with all the positive strides made after the Portal of Light Activation, especially with the non-physical cleared, are the Pleiadean protocols more effective? Like Command 1221 for support and Command 771 for healing?
Cobra:I would not say that the efficiency has increased a lot because there is still so much of this subquantum anomaly present. So I would say it's more or less the same.
Debra:Kind of the same. Will there be additional protocols given to Lightworkers to help us get through this time until the Event? Especially in regard to physical health and financial abundance?
Cobra:For financial abundance, I have given a lot of instructions in my conferences about the manifestation process. For the physical health, there is a protocol for physical pain already. And there is a general protocol being developed right now, and when it's ready, it'll be released.
Debra:Yes, we understand there's the chronic pain one, Command PB Stardust, but you're saying there's additional coming out?
黛布拉：是的，我们知道有慢性疼痛，指挥 PB 星尘，但你是说有额外的出来？
Debra:Thank you. What else can you share with us about improvements in the situation, such as the veil thinning? Is telepathy increasing? Can the Light Forces hear us more clearly? Are attacks decreasing? Are there any improvements in those areas?
Cobra:There might be some smaller improvements, but bigger improvements will happen when the subquantum anomaly is cleared to a degree.
Debra:Okay, we really need to dissolve that subquantum anomaly <laugh>. And what advice can you give the Lightworker community to heal their collective wounds so that they can work more harmonious to together, with less ego, less conflict, and less competition?
黛布拉：好吧，我们真的需要消除亚量子异常 < laugh > 。你能给光之工作者社区什么建议来治愈他们的集体创伤，以便他们能够以更少的自我、更少的冲突和更少的竞争更和谐地一起工作？
Cobra:Very simple. Use common sense.
Debra:Agreed. Thank you. All right, Cobra, so we're closing here. And as always, we would love for you to share any closing inspiration or advice that you have for the community. It sounds like we're coming into some more interesting times and we would love to get some final words of inspiration from you.
Cobra:Okay. What is very important at this point is not to lose the higher perspective, because the higher perspective is the one that will lead us through this period into those interesting moments. And of course, Victory of the Light.
Debra:Victory of the Light, absolutely! Cobra, thank you so much. I'd love to thank everyone at Sisterhood of the Rose for submitting questions, as well as the Victory of Light teams, and the We Love Mass Meditation team. Appreciate all of you so much. And Cobra, we appreciate you so much and all the work that you're doing. We know this isn't easy for anyone and I'm sure especially you. So, we love you, we value you, and we appreciate your time today. Thank you so much.
Cobra:Thank you everybody.
Debra:All right. Victory of the Light.
Cobra:Victory of the Light.