On December 4th,2020,former Head of Israeli space program Professor Haim Eshed has conducted an interview.In this interview,he disclosed that there is a Galactic Confederation that aliens exist and have been in contact with US for years.However,they have kept it a secret because they didn't feel humanity was ready.
2020年12月4日，以色列空间项目前负责人海姆•伊希德教授进行了一次采访。在这次采访中，他透露，有一个银河联邦，外星人存在，并已与美国接触多年。然而，他们一直保守着这个秘密，因为他们觉得人类还没有准备好。
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/media/former-head-of-israels-space-program-the-aliens-asked-not-to-be-revealed-humanity-not-yet-ready/2020/12/05/
The original source of this interview is from a platform called'ynet'.It is the digital news format of one of the most widespread newspaper called:'Yediot Achronot'.Meaning of the name-latest news.
这次采访的原始资料来源于一个叫做"ynet"的平台。它是最广为流传的报纸之一"Yediot Achronot"的数字新闻格式。这个名字的意义-最新的新闻。
Below is the full transcript of the interview,with comments by the translator Michal Greenberg in italic.
以下是采访的完整文字记录，以及翻译迈克尔·格林伯格用斜体所作的评论。
Special thanks to Michal Greenberg for translating this very important interview into English.
特别感谢 michael Greenberg 将这次非常重要的采访翻译成英文。
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Prof.Haim Eshed headed the Israeli space program and led the Ofek satellite launch project.But it was only after he left his official duties that he turned to what really interested him:aliens.In a new book,"The Universe Beyond the Horizon,"he argues that aliens from all over the universe are already walking among us,third-type encounters are just around the corner and the"Galactic Federation"is delaying the publication of information so as not to cause panic.Now he tells how the aliens prevented some nuclear holocausts,what's really going on at the mysterious farm in Utah and when we can jump in to visit black holes.
海姆·伊希德教授领导了以色列的太空计划，并领导了 Ofek 卫星发射计划。但是只有在他离开他的官方职责之后，他才转向真正让他感兴趣的东西:外星人。在他的新书《地平线之外的宇宙》(The Universe Beyond The Horizon)中，他认为来自宇宙各处的外星人已经在我们中间行走，第三类遭遇即将到来，而"银河联邦(galaxy federation)"正在推迟信息的发布，以免引起恐慌。现在，他讲述了外星人如何阻止了一些核浩劫，犹他州神秘农场到底发生了什么，以及我们什么时候可以跳进去参观黑洞。
It was a great start to the week.really.On Sunday I left Prof.Haim Eshed's house in an uplifted mood:sometime soon,for sure,we will contact aliens,they will teach us everything they know,science will leap a thousand light years ahead,we can start traveling time-space and jump with the kids to the end In the cluster of Pleiades,444 light-years away from the solar system-much better than Holon Park-and perhaps even the solution to the Beni Gantz riddle will be found.
这个星期是个好的开始。真的。星期天，我怀着愉快的心情离开了海姆•伊希德教授的家:不久的将来，我们肯定会与外星人接触，他们会教给我们他们所知道的一切，科学会向前飞跃一千光年，我们可以开始时空旅行，和孩子们一起跳跃到终点在昴宿星团中，距离太阳系444光年，比霍伦公园好得多，甚至可能会找到解决贝尼甘茨之谜的方法。
This is the good news.
这是个好消息。
There is also great news,but let's wait a bit.patience.We have been waiting for thousands of years for a third type of encounter-and this encounter is just around the corner,Prof.Eshed believes that it will happen in his lifetime,and the man is 81 years old-so you will agree to wait until the middle of this article with the excellent news.Hint?This is eternal life,but not in this body-sorry,Neta Alhamister and Aviv Alush;Not in this body.Details later on.
还有一个好消息，让我们再等等。耐心。我们已经为第三种相遇等待了数千年——而这种相遇就在眼前，伊希德教授相信它会在他的有生之年发生，而这个人已经81岁了——所以你会同意等到这篇文章的中间，带着这个好消息。提示？这是永恒的生命，但不是在这个身体里——对不起，Neta Alhamister 和 Aviv Alush;不是在这个身体里。细节稍后再说。
I would not have bothered with the spontaneous burst of joy-what a burst of joy and Sunday-nor would I have stood in my tiny home garden that night staring at the sky in eager anticipation of I-do-not-know-what-if it had not been for Prof.Haim Eshed.
那天晚上，我也不会站在我家小小的花园里，凝视着天空，渴望着——如果不是因为哈姆·埃舍德教授，我不知道会发生什么。
Prof.Eshed is one of the most respected and sharp astronauts in Israel,who headed the Israel Space Agency's Administration at the Ministry of Defense and was directly responsible for planning and developing Israel's satellite program and launching the first satellite,Ofek 1,in 1988,with the specially developed Shavit launcher.Later he was also involved in the invention and development of Israeli drones.And the rest is history,a secret rifle.
伊希德教授是以色列最受尊敬和最聪明的宇航员之一，他在国防部领导以色列航天局，并直接负责规划和发展以色列的卫星计划，并于1988年发射了第一颗卫星，Ofek 1号，使用特别研制的 Shavit 发射器。后来，他还参与了以色列无人机的发明和开发。剩下的就是历史了，一把秘密步枪。
I was left with my mouth open
我张着嘴离开
What about a senior pilot,researcher and technologist in aeronautics,who won the Israel Security Award and the Chief of Staff's Award,and the aliens?Eshed is by no means a geek from the comic book store that tells you about the flying saucer that landed in his yard yesterday at noon just as he was feeding the cats.No;Eshed is perhaps the most senior responsible person in Israel in the-let's say-industry,flying things at jet speed for purposes for which silence is preferable.
一个高级飞行员，航空学研究员和技术专家，赢得了以色列安全奖和参谋长奖，还有外星人呢？伊希德绝不是一个来自漫画书店的极客，他会告诉你昨天中午他正在喂猫的时候飞碟降落在他的院子里。不，伊希德可能是以色列最负责任的人，比如说，以喷气式飞机的速度飞行，为了这个目的，最好保持安静。
But in the last decade,he admits,the aliens have been constantly employing him,and in the last two years the business has already become inflationary;With about 6,000 reports last year of UFOs observed in the West,and with the documentation of the celestial object"Umuamua"in Hawaii-about which Prof.Abraham Leib,head of the Department of Astronomy at Harvard,stated that it was an UFO-Eshed can no longer resist."Even Harry Reid,the former majority leader in the U.S.Senate,has now given an interview and said:'Click on the government to publish the evidence it has accumulated over the years.Enough is enough.'
但是，他承认，在过去的十年里，外星人一直在雇佣他，在过去的两年里，这个行业已经膨胀起来;去年有大约6000份关于在西方观测到的 UFO 的报告，还有关于在夏威夷观测到的天体"Umuamua"的记录——哈佛大学天文系主任亚伯拉罕·莱布教授说，这是一个 UFO-Eshed 再也无法抗拒的恒星。"就连美国参议院前多数党领袖哈里•里德(Harry Reid)现在也接受了采访，他说:'点击政府公布多年来积累的证据。够了就够了。'
Until recently,Eshed actually managed to hold back,but then Trump officially set up the"space arm,"and the press was given a message that the Pentagon's"task force for unidentified aerial phenomena"would begin publishing its findings to the public every six months.At the same time,American billionaire Robert Bigelow's Skinwalker cattle farm in Utah-a place formerly suspected of being a favorite airport by aliens-has documented several things that no amount of popcorn in the world will be enough to watch.
直到最近，伊希德实际上还在努力克制，但后来特朗普正式成立了"太空部门"，媒体得到消息称，五角大楼的"不明空中现象特别工作组"将开始每六个月向公众公布其调查结果。与此同时，美国亿万富翁罗伯特•毕格罗(Robert Bigelow)在犹他州的 Skinwalker 养牛场——一个曾被外星人怀疑是最受欢迎的机场的地方——记录了几件世界上再多爆米花也不够看的事情。
"Abnormal phenomena have now been documented on this farm,"an enthusiastic Eshed."A team of NASA scientists and MIT graduates brought all the possible devices there-cameras,spectrometers,spectrographs,gamma-ray,X-ray,UV,IR,all the fields,and see things I,who have been researching for ten years,I was left with my mouth open.Not just me.I spoke with Prof.Itzik Ben-Israel(currently chairman of the Space Agency)who always grinned a little,and he was also moved.
一个充满热情的伊希德说:"这个农场现在已经记录了不正常的现象。"。"一个由美国宇航局科学家和麻省理工学院毕业生组成的团队带来了所有可能的设备——照相机、光谱仪、光谱仪、伽马射线、x 射线、紫外线、红外线(IR)，所有的领域，以及看到的东西。不仅仅是我。我采访了 Itzik Ben-Israel 教授(现任航天局主席)，他总是微微一笑，他也很感动。
What did they see there?
他们在那里看到了什么？
"Do you know the term portal in this context?So you see a name that appears UFO-you shoot it in the whole spectrum of cameras,you see the radiation at all frequencies,it's raging!"
"你知道在这种情况下门户这个术语吗？所以你看到一个出现 UFO 的名字——你用所有的相机拍摄它，你看到所有频率的辐射，它在肆虐!"
It can not be some familiar aerial vehicle?
不会是某种熟悉的飞行器吧？
"No!It shows clear signs of UFOs:insane accelerations,lack of gravity,90-degree changes of direction at tremendous speeds,deformation.And all the scientists there are in complete shock."
不！它显示了 ufo 的明显迹象:疯狂的加速度，失重，以惊人的速度改变方向90度，变形。那里的所有科学家都完全震惊了。"
And what does the UFO do?
UFO 是做什么的？
"You see the radiation bounce,and you see a shape-shifting body come out,a light coming out of it at a frequency you can't see with the naked eye-in fact you see nothing when you look normally-but in cameras,at high frequencies,you see that body perform."Mutilation Carnage-draws blood from the cattle on the ground in front of your eyes."
"你看到辐射反弹，你看到一个形状变化的物体出现，一束光以肉眼无法看到的频率从中射出——事实上，当你正常观察时，你什么也看不到——但是在摄像机中，在高频率下，你看到这个物体的表现。"毁尸灭迹——从你眼前地上的牛群中抽取血液。"
What exactly did they see?
他们到底看到了什么？
"Something like a cloud like that.Like drawing a ghost to children.It's an undefined,amorphous cloud,and the rays emanate from it,and you see the cow twitching.And when it's over everyone runs to the field to see,and there is nothing,no blood-but the cow's body has a cut"It's like with a laser.They took out her organs and drew blood for her!If they told me that,I would say,'Sorry,this is a show.But MIT professors and leading researchers have seen and confirmed it,and everyone's shocked.So listen,you have to at least check."
像那样的云。就像给孩子们画鬼一样。这是一片未定义的，无定形的云，光线从中散发出来，你可以看到奶牛在抽搐。当一切结束后，每个人都跑到田野里去看，那里什么都没有，没有血——但是牛的身体上有一道伤口。他们取出她的器官，为她抽血！如果他们告诉我这些，我会说，'对不起，这是一场表演。但是麻省理工学院的教授和主要研究人员已经看到并证实了这一点，每个人都感到震惊。所以听着，你们至少要检查一下。"
Why does Robert Bigelow himself not tell about it?
为什么 Robert Bigelow 自己不说？
"He received huge funding from NASA as part of programs that my friends from there are just mumbling about under his nose,and he promised in writing that everything goes to the Pentagon and is housed there.It annoys him that the Ministry of Defense is not willing to take anything out."
"他收到了来自美国宇航局的巨额资金，作为项目的一部分，我在那里的朋友只是在他鼻子底下嘀咕，他在书面上承诺，所有的东西都会送到五角大楼，并在那里安置。国防部不愿意拿出任何东西，这让他很恼火。"
Agreement between the Aliens and the United States
外国人和美国之间的协议
Well,we'll have to stop here for a moment,because we're just getting started and later Prof.Eshed may say even more far-reaching things,so it's worthwhile to take a look here and now at,let's say,his speed of connection at his age;Well,it's absolute.
我们必须在这里停一下，因为我们刚刚开始，稍后伊希德教授可能会说更深远的东西，所以这里和现在值得一看，比如说，他在这个年龄的连接速度，这是绝对的。
In fact,Eshed looks much younger and more energetic than his age.His study is full with books,letters of appreciation and especially countless folders in which he meticulously stores every single article on his business-including,for the past decade,aliens.And he talks about the subject with the same gleam in his eyes that Richard Dreyfus runs through throughout Spielberg's"third-type encounters."In fact,Eshed is currently a kind of Israeli Dreyfus traveling against the direction of traffic on the way to a meeting he knows is about to take place at the foot of a mountain whose shape he unknowingly sculpted in his pile of mashed potatoes.
事实上，伊希德看起来比他的年龄更年轻，更有活力。他的书房里堆满了书籍、感谢信，尤其是无数的文件夹，他在里面一丝不苟地存放着他生意上的每一篇文章——包括过去十年里的《外星人》。他谈到这个话题时，眼中闪烁着理查德•德雷福斯(Richard Dreyfus)在斯皮尔伯格的《第三类接触》(third-type encounters)中贯穿始终的那种光芒事实上，伊希德现在是一个以色列的 Dreyfus，在去参加一个他知道即将在山脚下举行的会议的路上，他不知不觉地在他的土豆泥堆里雕刻出了这个山的形状。
The amounts of material and information that Eshed has accumulated on the subject,along with his almost childish enthusiasm,often cause him to zigzag between different matters and issues in a pattern quite similar to that of an average UFO:rapid changes of direction,far-reaching accelerations,a form that takes time to stabilize.
伊希德在这个问题上积累了大量的材料和信息，再加上他近乎孩子气的热情，经常导致他在不同的事物和问题之间摇摆不定，其模式与一般 UFO 非常相似:方向的快速变化，影响深远的加速度，一种需要时间才能稳定下来的形式。
His determination-even when it goes against what seems reasonable logic or the perceptions of the"mainstream academy,"as he calls it-accumulates throughout the conversation and becomes,at some point,compelling.His new book,"The Universe Beyond the Horizon"(published by Yedioth Ahronoth),co-authored by author Hagar Yanai and serves as a kind of biography that tells the story of his life,devotes all his last and extensive part to Yopology-researching aliens and hundreds of findings and testimonies collected in the field to date.The materials are serious and authoritative,and do not include explicit references to Alef or Mork from Ork Star.You quickly read these pages in the book and find yourself mumbling at the end,against your good judgment:heck,they're here.
他的决心——即使违背了似乎合理的逻辑，或者违背了他所谓的"主流学术"的观念——在整个谈话过程中不断积累，并在某种程度上变得令人信服。他的新书《地平线之外的宇宙》(yedioth ahronoth 出版社出版)，与作者 Hagar Yanai 合著，作为一本传记，讲述了他的生活故事，把他最后和最广泛的部分献给了 Yopology——研究外星人，以及迄今为止在这个领域收集的数百个发现和证词。《新消息报》(The Universe Beyond The Horizon)。这些材料都是严肃而权威的，并没有明确提到 Alef 或者来自 Ork Star 的 Mork。你很快就读完了这本书，然后发现自己在书的最后喃喃自语，违背了你良好的判断:见鬼，它们就在这里。
"If I had come up with what I tell you today five years ago,I would have been hospitalized,"Eshed knows."Everywhere I went to the academy to this day,they threw me out.Even though I was a star in other fields,when I got there they said:The guy went crazy.Kniewski."
伊希德知道:"如果五年前我今天告诉你的事情是我想出来的，我早就住院了。"。"直到今天，我去学院的每一个地方，他们都把我赶出来了。尽管我在其他领域是个明星，但当我到那里的时候，他们说:那家伙疯了。克尼斯基。"
Are you not risking academically when you are interviewed on the subject now?
你现在接受这个问题的采访，不是在冒学术风险吗？
"I have nothing to lose today.I have received my degrees and awards,I am honored at universities abroad,and even there the trend is changing and willing to talk about it,even if in many places still say:Listen,make sure the elephant in the room stays in the room,and do not quote us."
我今天没什么可失去的。我已经获得了我的学位和奖项，我在国外的大学获得了荣誉，即使在那里，趋势正在改变，并且愿意谈论它，即使在许多地方仍然说:"听着，确保房间里的大象保持在房间里，不要引用我们的话。"
Where such things are being said?
在哪里说这样的话？
"American presidents also testified to that.Truman admitted to seeing a whole bunch of aliens over Washington.Nixon,who was a friend of comedian Jackie Gleason and knew he was crazy about UFOs,told him,'I'm going to make your life's dream come true,'and took him to base.White-Patterson and showed him the bodies of aliens.Gleason went into depression from that.Eisenhower's granddaughter testifies that her grandfather signed an agreement with the aliens,that they would have a secret landing base here in Area 51 in Nevada,that they could come into contact with a limited number of people,conduct experiments,and that the condition was that they provide us with technologies.For the object to disengage from gravity-R.S.)".
"美国总统也证实了这一点。杜鲁门承认在华盛顿上空看到了一大群外星人。尼克松是喜剧演员杰基•格里森(Jackie Gleason)的朋友，他知道自己为不明飞行物而疯狂。他告诉他，'我要让你的人生梦想成真'，并带他去了基地。怀特-帕特森向他展示了外星人的尸体。格里森因此陷入了抑郁。艾森豪威尔的孙女作证说她的祖父和外星人签署了一份协议他们将在内华达州51区建立一个秘密登陆基地他们可以接触到人数有限的人进行实验条件是他们必须向我们提供技术。让这个物体脱离重力-rs。"。
And we got these technologies?
我们有这些技术？
"Yes.We have anti-gravity and other things."
"是的，我们有反重力和其他东西。"
So why are they hiding from us and how can governments and armies in the world be able to cooperate in concealment of this magnitude?
那么，他们为什么要躲着我们呢?世界上的政府和军队如何能够合作来隐藏如此重大的事件呢？
"Not all the governments of the world.There is a group of partners-the Americans,the Russians,the Japanese,the English and the Chinese-all coordinated at a level where it is still forbidden to publish,and those who asked not to publish are them."
不是世界上所有的政府。美国、俄罗斯、日本、英国和中国这些合作伙伴在一定程度上进行了协调，但仍然禁止发表文章，要求不发表文章的就是他们。"
Who are they?
他们是谁？
"The Galactic Federation."
银河联邦
Is there such a thing?
有这种东西吗？
"It exists.I wrote about it even though it was perceived as a conspiracy theory,but lately former senior generals are also saying to publish,and Trump was on the verge of finding out,and a few mainstream professors are also saying:Guys,tell.But the aliens in the federation say:Wait,let's"First calm down,do not post yet because you will see what is happening to you.You are still fighting each other,you will destroy yourself."
它存在。尽管这被认为是一个阴谋论，我还是把它写了下来，但最近前高级将领们也说要发表，特朗普就快要发现了，一些主流教授也说:伙计们，说吧。但是联邦里的外星人说:"等等，让我们先冷静下来，先不要发帖，因为你会看到发生在你身上的事情。"。你们还在互相争斗，你们会毁了自己的。"
Why not come and talk to us directly?
为什么不直接过来和我们谈谈呢？
"Because it will create panic and collapse humanity.What will happen?The markets will collapse,there will be nothing to eat,people will become cannibals,hospitals will be shut down,all dark passions will come out,it may be the end-and they are not interested in it.On the contrary,they follow all the time.-And there are a lot of reports about it-after the nuclear events in the world,they monitor all the stations and nuclear weapons bases-I'm willing to give you all the things written-and there were already things they prevented.Know that it's not just luck that the Russians in the Pigs bay did not use nuclear weapons"The Americans.Someone neutralized it.Without them,I have no doubt that humanity would have destroyed itself.They want to say to humanity:Children,calm down."
"因为这会造成恐慌和人类的崩溃。会发生什么？市场会崩溃，没有东西吃，人们会变成食人族，医院会被关闭，所有黑暗的激情会出现，这可能是结束——他们对此不感兴趣。相反，他们一直在跟随。-有很多关于它的报道-在世界上发生核事件之后，他们监视着所有的核电站和核武器基地-我愿意给你们所有的书面材料-已经有他们阻止的事情了。要知道，在猪湾的俄罗斯人没有使用核武器不仅仅是运气好。有人中和了它。没有他们，我毫不怀疑人类会自我毁灭。他们想对人类说:孩子们，冷静下来。"
Why not make contact and say explicitly that they are coming in peace?
为什么不进行接触，明确表示他们是为和平而来？
The UFOs have asked not to publish that they are here,humanity is not ready yet.There will be a huge rampage of everyone,and what the Inquisition did to guys like Galileo and Copernicus will return.They want to make us sane first and understand.They waited until today for humanity to evolve and reach a point where we would even understand what space and a spacecraft are-think,in World War I we did not even have planes-and they do not want mass hysteria here,with the best example being what happened in 1938,with a sketch.Orson Welles'World War I,and the police collapsed and everything exploded in the streets.And what they say is:first of all,let's stand,that the stock markets will not fall,that there will be no rampage,that humanity will calm down a little."
不明飞行物已经要求不要公开他们的存在，人类还没有准备好。每个人都会大发雷霆，宗教裁判所对伽利略和哥白尼这样的人所做的一切将会卷土重来。他们想让我们首先理智和理解。他们一直等到今天，等到人类进化到我们甚至可以理解太空和航天器的地步——想想看，在第一次世界大战中，我们甚至没有飞机——他们不希望这里出现大规模的歇斯底里，最好的例子就是1938年发生的事情，还有一张草图。Orson Welles 的第一次世界大战，警察倒下了，街上的一切都爆炸了。他们所说的是:首先，让我们站起来，股市不会下跌，不会出现暴乱，人性会稍微冷静一点。"
Are we in communication with them regarding the date of disclosure?
我们是否与他们就披露日期进行了沟通？
"There is an agreement between the U.S.government and aliens-I can not prove it,I understand it sounds like a conspiracy theory-but the understanding is that the Galactic Federation has nine elements of advanced aliens of various kinds,who signed a contract with us to do experiments here."
"美国政府和外星人达成了一项协议——我无法证明这一点，我知道这听起来像是一个阴谋论——但我们的理解是，银河联邦(消歧义)有九种不同种类的高级外星人，他们与我们签订了在这里进行实验的合同。"
What interest do they have in us?
他们对我们有什么兴趣？
"There are all the resources here.There is water here in quantities that are nowhere else,there is all kinds of vegetation,all kinds of animals,the ocean."
"这里有所有的资源。这里有其他地方没有的大量水，有各种各样的植被，各种各样的动物，还有海洋。"
But as intelligence developed from us,what are we useful to them?
但是随着智慧从我们身上发展出来，我们对他们有什么用呢？
"We are their petri dish.They too are researching and trying to understand the whole fabric of the universe,and they want us as helpers.To this day the petri dish has not been stabilized-but it is estimated that we are reaching this stage:religion accepts their existence-the Vatican has already announced it wants to baptize them;"The UN has appointed an ambassador for foreign affairs(Mollan Othman-R.S.);
我们是他们的培养皿。他们也在研究和试图理解整个宇宙的结构，他们希望我们成为帮手。直到今天，培养皿还没有稳定下来——但据估计，我们正在到达这个阶段:宗教接受它们的存在——梵蒂冈已经宣布要给它们施洗礼;
The corona calmed everything and brought us closer to them."
日冕平息了一切，让我们离他们更近了。"
Come on,in the present age there is no way such a thing would have been kept secret.
得了吧，在当今时代，这样的事情是不可能被保密的。
"How many years have you kept the fact that the Earth is not the center of the universe a secret?1,500 years.Or the'Manhattan Plan'(US atomic bomb project)-do you know how many people worked there?150,000 people.How many knew what it was?.three.So if you want to keep such a thing a secret,you can.And there is a terrible,obsessive system of silence,of the Americans,who have decided,under the guidance of the aliens,who are not yet publishing.Robert Bigelow also said:"I can not publish the films."
"你隐瞒地球不是宇宙中心这个事实有多少年了？1500年了。或者"曼哈顿计划"(美国原子弹计划)——你知道有多少人在那里工作吗？15万人。有多少人知道这是什么？.三个。所以如果你想保守这个秘密，你可以。有一个可怕的，强迫性的沉默系统，美国人，他们已经决定，在外星人的指导下，他们还没有出版。罗伯特·毕格罗也说:"我不能出版这些电影。"
Why,will they kill him?
为什么，他们会杀了他吗？
"Yes.Killed a lot along the way.Everyone who opened their mouths."
"是的，一路上杀了很多人，每个开口说话的人"
Aliens and astronauts on Mars
火星上的外星人和宇航员
You understand that the discussion with Eshed slides almost at any given time into the expected pattern in which you try to stop a person's speech from being upset with a story that requires at least some degree of skepticism.In front of all your"yes,but"there are ten more seemingly obvious proofs in the form of articles,quotes,opinions and gut feelings that feel solid.It's still a fascinating discussion,mainly because it's Eshed-someone who's fully aware of the conspiratorial ringing,coming from the overlap,of the whole business,and yet he insists there are things-probably flying-which are very much real.
您知道，使用伊希德的讨论几乎在任何给定的时间都会滑入预期的模式，在这种模式中，您试图阻止一个人对至少需要某种程度怀疑的故事感到不安。在你所有的"是的，但是"之前，还有10个看起来明显的证据，以文章、引用、观点和直觉的形式，让你感觉很可靠。这仍然是一个引人入胜的讨论，主要是因为它是伊希德——一个完全意识到整个业务重叠所带来的阴谋的人，但他坚持认为有些东西——可能是飞行的——是非常真实的。
Throughout most of his years,Eshed actually clung to the here and now.The new book tells the story of a child who immigrated with his parents from Istanbul in the difficult 1940s to the border between the Mugrabi neighborhood and Tikva in Tel Aviv,categorized in elementary school as a stereotypical and hopeless product of the neighborhood,paved for a vocational school and accepted,still without a matriculation certificate.In the Faculty of Building and then in Electrical Engineering.The sequel already included a doctorate in aeronautical engineering,development of technological infrastructure and weapons for the intelligence division,and a professional look,when following the peace agreement with Egypt and the halting of the possibility of freely photographing what was happening in Sinai,Eshed came up with the unlikely idea oflaunching a satellite.Opposition was sweeping,but nine years and about$200 million later,Ofek 1 was launched,making Israel the seventh country in the world with the ability to develop and launch satellites.
在他的大部分时间里，伊希德实际上都紧紧抓住此时此地不放。这本新书讲述了一个孩子的故事，他在困难的1940年代随父母从伊斯坦布尔移民到特拉维夫 Mugrabi 社区和 Tikva 之间的边界，在小学被归类为该社区的陈规定型和无望的产物，为职业学校铺平了道路，并被接受，但仍然没有大学入学证书。在建筑学院，然后是电气工程学院。这个续集已经包括了航空工程学博士学位，为情报部门开发技术基础设施和武器，以及一个专业的视角。在与埃及达成和平协议以及停止自由拍摄西奈半岛发生的事情之后，伊希德想出了发射一颗卫星的不太可能的主意。反对声浪席卷而来，但9年后，耗资约2亿美元的 Ofek 1发射成功，使以色列成为世界上第七个有能力发展和发射卫星的国家。
Eshed spent the next 29 years in Israel's security space program,and after his official retirement he continued to develop a science curriculum for middle schools-including the actual launch of tiny box satellites by students.
、伊希德在以色列的安全太空计划中度过了接下来的29年，在他正式退休后，他继续为中学开发科学课程——包括学生们实际发射微型盒式卫星。
Then,roughly,the aliens began to enter into the routine of his peaceful life,or as he immediately clarifies at the beginning of the conversation:"Space for me is an obsession.When an ordinary person looks at the sky at night he sees darkness and some stars.I see amazing things there all the time."Stars that form,things that accumulate-listen,space is Times Square on July 4.Space is a carnival."
然后，大致上，外星人开始进入他平静的日常生活，或者正如他在谈话开始时立即澄清的那样:"太空对我来说是一种困扰。当一个普通人在夜晚仰望天空时，他看到的是黑暗和一些星星。我总能在那里看到神奇的东西。形成的星星，积累的东西——听着，太空是7月4日的时代广场。太空是一个狂欢节。"
Eshed believes wholeheartedly in bringing the alien,though he personally admits he has never seen an UFO."."I think it's very close-next year NASA will launch the James Web telescope,which will replace the Tarantula Hubble,and it will detect real-life signals."
尽管他个人承认他从来没有见过 UFO，但他仍然全心全意地相信把这个外星人带来。"."我认为这是非常接近-明年美国宇航局将发射詹姆斯网络望远镜，它将取代狼蛛哈勃望远镜，它将探测真实生活的信号。"
How many life forms are there in space?
太空中有多少种生命形式？
"There are thousands of stars with conditions similar enough to ours,and serious scientists have identified and documented dozens of life forms-even though the mainstream does not accept it.The closest to us are what we call'grays',which are gray creatures with large eyes with them".
"有成千上万颗恒星的环境与我们的相似，严肃的科学家已经确认并记录了几十种生命形式——尽管主流社会并不接受这种说法。最接近我们的是我们称之为'灰色'的生物，它们是长着大眼睛的灰色生物。"。
Where are they geographically close to us?
它们在地理上靠近我们的地方在哪里？
"Suppose some of them came from the Pleiades,planets that have living conditions we know about-we can't get there,but they can get to us because they are much more advanced."
"假设其中一些来自昴宿星，我们知道这些行星的生存条件，我们无法到达那里，但它们可以到达我们这里，因为它们要先进得多。"
Where else in the neighborhood is there life?
附近还有哪些地方存在生命？
"There is an underground base in the depths of Mars,and there are their representatives and also our American astronauts."
"火星深处有一个地下基地，那里有他们的代表，也有我们的美国宇航员。"
How do we know that?
我们怎么知道的？
"Do you want articles?There are.But science,until now,does not want to hear."
"你想要文章吗?有。但科学，直到现在，不想听。"
What do their aircraft look like?
他们的飞机长什么样？
"The large spacecraft is almost the size of a small town.Small spacecraft emerge from it-most of them robotic,manned by intelligent robots.At first they will send such robots,primitive to them,or a message we will have to decipher."
"这艘大型宇宙飞船几乎有一个小镇那么大。小型宇宙飞船从中诞生——大部分是由智能机器人操控的机器人。起初，他们会发送这样的机器人，对他们来说是原始的，或者是我们必须破译的信息。"
To reach us they need to move at least at the speed of light.What is their propulsion method-rocket?Nuclear?
为了接近我们，它们至少需要以光速移动。他们的推进方法是什么?火箭？核武器？
"No.They have a method of making a bubble that neutralizes time-space,and the tool does not move-space moves,and this is consistent with general relativity.Take for example an ant that wants to get from one page to the other.Now let's say I folded the page in two-it moves to the other side"In a second.That's how you fold time-space as well."
""不。他们有一种制造泡沫的方法，可以中和时空，而且工具不会移动-空间移动，这与广义相对论是一致的。举个例子，一只蚂蚁想从一页到另一页。现在让我们假设我把页面折叠成两页——它马上移动到另一边。这也是你折叠时空的方式。"
What do they use to move time-space?
他们用什么来移动时空？
"It's a bit of a complex physics;propulsion is based on dark energy-25 percent of the universe is dark matter-which allows time-space to be distorted and reach other galaxies in no time.You can create a tiny black hole-that's what we do in Switzerland"It's technologies that sound like science fiction but are almost there."
"这是一个有点复杂的物理过程，推进是基于暗能量的——宇宙中25%的物质是暗物质——这使得时空扭曲，很快就能到达其他星系。你可以创造一个微小的黑洞——这就是我们在瑞士所做的。"这些技术听起来像科幻小说，但几乎已经实现了。"
And what will happen when they come to us?
当它们来到我们身边时会发生什么呢？
"Humanity will connect to the fabric of the universe,and once we connect,our science will leap in thousands of years,we will be capable of anti-gravity,we will move between star systems,religion will lose the control it has today-aliens do not believe in religion,they believe in deciphering the fabric of the universe,which is not God,It's math"
"人类将与宇宙的结构相连，一旦我们相连，我们的科学将在数千年内飞跃，我们将能够反重力，我们将在星系间移动，宗教将失去今天的控制-外星人不相信宗教，他们相信解密宇宙的结构，这不是上帝，这是数学"
Say,why are they always described as relatively short creatures,with a long neck and a large head?This is exactly the way the immediate human imagination will see them.
比如说，为什么他们总是被描述成相对矮小的生物，长着长长的脖子和大大的脑袋？这正是人类直接想象中看到它们的方式。
"No.They have all kinds of shapes-they are a function of the star around which they cluster,and some of them can make shape shifting."
""不。它们有各种各样的形状——它们是围绕它们聚集的恒星的一个函数，其中一些可以使形状发生变化。"
Is it biologically reasonable?
这在生物学上合理吗？
"Yes.Here is an example that you will understand immediately"-Eshed points to the heavy wooden table between us."It's a table,yes?It's made of atoms.And if the nucleus of the atom is here on the table-do you know where its electron is?Maybe in Rosh Pina,maybe in the middle of nothing.It's quantum theory;the material is empty."
"是的。这是一个你马上就会明白的例子。"——伊希德指着我们之间沉重的木桌。这是一张桌子，对吗？它由原子组成。如果原子核在桌子上，你知道它的电子在哪里吗？也许在 Rosh Pina 中，也许在虚无之中。这是量子理论，物质是空的。"
But you and I do not know how to turn this table into something else now.
但是你和我现在不知道如何把这张桌子变成别的东西。
"But we too are energy.Even when we die we do not die,because we are made of molecules and atoms,and we move to another energy.You connect back to the cosmic fabric,to the web,to the connection of consciousnesses.You are consciousness."
但我们也是能量。即使我们死了，我们也不会死，因为我们是由分子和原子组成的，我们移动到另一种能量。你回到宇宙结构，回到网络，回到意识的连接。你就是意识。"
She's going to die with me,isn't she?
她要和我一起死了，不是吗？
"No,forget it.The consciousnesses will not die.Everything you have accumulated is added.It goes to the same network-and everything you have accumulated in your life,the personality,the total of what you have gone through,it accumulates.Stephen Hawking also understood that our consciousness adds to the fabric of the universe.We are building blocks.A phase on the way."
"不，算了吧。意识不会消亡。你所积累的一切都被增加了。它进入同一个网络——你在生活中所积累的一切，你的个性，你所经历的一切，它都在积累。史蒂芬·霍金也明白，我们的意识增加了宇宙的结构。我们是积木。一个正在进行的阶段。"
Biologists will tell you nonsense,it's all chemical and electrical activity in the brain.
生物学家会对你胡说八道，这些都是大脑中的化学和电子活动。
"Bring me proof.Do you know that this is the biggest debate in science-consciousness?They have not summed it up,and there are phenomena that cannot be explained by electrical activity in the brain."
"给我证据。你知道这是科学意识中最大的争论吗？他们还没有总结出来，有些现象是无法用大脑的电活动来解释的。"
Humanity will not survive here
人类将无法在这里生存
I admit that by this point in the discussion I had already moved all my chips(he means from the Casino)to Eshed's side.I'm with him in this gamble.I'm ready and willing,when the day comes,to reconnect my mind to the general fabric-save me a spot next to Jerry Seinfeld's Consciousness-and I'm anxiously awaiting,along with Eshed,the official announcement of continued engagement with the aliens-it's unlikely to come through.A special announcement by the Prime Minister that Eshed believes that Netanyahu is not in the know."Most countries are isolated from it,"he says.and better this way.
我承认，在讨论到这一步的时候，我已经把我所有的筹码(他的意思是从赌场)都转移到了伊希德那边。在这场赌博中，我和他是一伙的。我已经准备好并且愿意，当那一天到来的时候，将我的思想重新连接到普通的织物上——在杰瑞·宋飞的意识旁给我留一个位置——我和伊希德一起焦急地等待着官方宣布继续与外星人交战的消息——这不太可能实现。以色列总理发表了一份特别声明，称伊希德认为内塔尼亚胡并不知情。他说:"大多数国家都被孤立了。"。这种方式更好。
It's too easy-certainly as the last paragraph suggests-to dismiss most of this conversation as somewhat delusional,but Eshed is still the one who has accumulated reliable and impressive enough mileage in his life.From service with the rookie Netanyahu("I can tell you things that will bring you down")to conversations with Elon Musk("He's a genius.Sit with him you might feel a little like with me-he's a little crazy like that,but he lives things,and his company,'Space X',Connected to the issue of aliens")-Eshed made sure to stay,specifically in his business,with both feet on the ground."I'm not a space scientist,I'm a space technologist,"he explains.
很容易——当然正如最后一段所暗示的那样——把这次谈话的大部分内容视为有点妄想，但是 Eshed 仍然是那个在他的生活中积累了足够可靠和令人印象深刻的里程数的人。从为新人内塔尼亚胡服务("我可以告诉你一些会让你失望的事情")到与埃隆·马斯克("他是个天才。和他坐在一起，你可能会觉得有点像和我坐在一起——他是有点疯狂，但他生活得很好，他的公司"太空 x"与外星人的问题相关。)——伊希德确保留下来，特别是在他的生意上，脚踏实地。他解释说:"我不是一个太空科学家，我是一个太空技术专家。
Not that he would not pay any amount to go on an out-of-atmosphere expedition.In fact,he says,he was among the candidates to be the first Israeli astronaut,but Ilan Ramon was finally chosen,"and he was supposed to replace me after his return as head of the security space program,and allow me to return to academia."
并不是说他不愿意支付任何金额去进行一次大气层外的探险。事实上，他说，他是第一位以色列宇航员的候选人之一，但是 Ilan Ramon 最终被选中了，"他应该在重新担任安全太空项目负责人之后取代我，并允许我重返学术界。"
In retrospect you're probably glad you did not fly.
回想起来，你可能会庆幸自己没有飞行。
"No,I'm very disappointed.Listen,humanity will not survive here,and if someone does not take care of the environment I will give us less than 50 years.Humanity will die-I hope they(Eshed pointing towards the ceiling),will not let that happen.To know where we came from and where we are going."
"不，我很失望。听着，人类将无法在这里生存，如果有人不爱护环境，我将给我们不到50年的时间。人类将会灭亡——我希望他们(伊希德指向天花板)，不会让这种事情发生。知道我们从哪里来，我们要去哪里。"
But in space tourism you are simply raised to a height of a hundred kilometers and then you return.What else is there to do there?
但是在太空旅游中，你只需要把自己提升到100公里的高度，然后再回来。在那里还能做什么呢？
"Your consciousness changes.If you go out into space you come back different.Your picture is different.Ask any astronaut who has been there."
你的意识会改变。如果你进入太空，你回来的时候就不一样了。你的照片是不同的。问问任何一个去过那里的宇航员。"
Are you jealous of Eitan Steve?
你嫉妒伊坦史蒂夫吗？
"He's a wonderful guy,and what happened is that they took and soiled it in a bibistic way.He came up with it and said,'I want it and I'm willing to pay.There were already five billionaires of Americans before him who went out."He just wanted to have the experience.My heart ached."
"他是一个很棒的家伙，而事实是他们以一种圣经式的方式把它弄脏了。他想出了这个办法，说:'我想要它，我愿意付钱。在他之前已经有五个亿万富翁离开了。他只是想体验一下。我的心很痛。"
Is space tourism at all a scientific matter?
太空旅游真的是一个科学问题吗？
"No,it will end up as a hobby for the rich.What is really interesting is the asteroid mining-which has expensive materials in huge quantities,gold and platinum that have already sunk to the center of the globe and the asteroids are still on the surface."And cut what you want.And Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are already planning it.It will be a new gold rush."
"不，它最终会成为富人的爱好。真正令人感兴趣的是小行星采矿业——它拥有大量昂贵的材料，黄金和铂已经沉入地球中心，而小行星仍然在地表。切割你想要的东西。埃隆·马斯克和杰夫·贝索斯已经在计划了。这将是一场新的淘金热。"
What else will happen in the next decade?
未来十年还会发生什么？
"I estimate that quantum computers will reach a level that will exceed human capacity in terms of consciousness.It will be superconscious,they will be smarter than us and much more significant than what is now.And the ability of the computer will advance the human consciousness-we will stop with all the pettiness and Miri Regev(I don't know what he exactly means mentioning this name–she was or still is in the knesset)and look forward,where we want to advance.If you understand that your consciousness is building the array of the universe,you will say:What should I quarrel with?I contribute my share,progress,in the end I am part of the fabric.I believe that humanity will stop dealing with pettiness and rise in level.Ten years from now,we will see a different consciousness."
"我估计，量子计算机将达到一个水平，将超过人类的意识能力。它将是超意识的，它们将比我们更聪明，比现在更重要。计算机的能力将推进人类的意识-我们将停止所有的琐碎和 Miri Regev(我不知道他到底是什么意思提到这个名字-她是或仍然是在议会)，并展望，我们想要进步的地方。如果你明白你的意识正在构建宇宙的阵列，你会说:我应该和什么争吵？我贡献我的份额，进步，最终我是这个结构的一部分。我相信人类将会停止处理琐碎的事情，并且提升自己的水平。十年后，我们将看到一种不同的意识。"
At the moment,things seem to be going in the opposite direction,with the polarizing social networks and everything.
目前，事情似乎正朝着相反的方向发展，两极分化的社交网络和一切。
"It's momentary.It's like a petri dish that has problems that need to be neutralized.Science needs to be given a chance to work.Today the only thing that keeps us sane is science."
"这只是暂时的。就像一个培养皿，里面有需要中和的问题。科学需要一个机会来发挥作用。今天，唯一能让我们保持理智的是科学。"
He himself continues to research,advise and work with the Science Center in Herzliya,which transfers the science program to middle schools in six centers in the periphery.His eldest daughter became religious("in the middle of her doctorate,"he sadly announces),the middle son is a startupist,and the youngest daughter,now 39,works in Philadelphia as a capital market analyst.
他本人继续在 Herzliya 的科学中心进行研究、咨询和工作，该中心将科学项目转移到周边六个中心的中学。他的大女儿开始信教("正在攻读博士学位，"他悲伤地宣布)，二儿子是个创业者，小女儿现年39岁，在费城做资本市场分析师。
This state of affairs has left Eshed,along the corona,devoid of grandchildren visits,and is not accustomed to this kind of disconnect.Married for the third time(the children from his first wife),Eshed finds himself,more than once,misses,but he believes that here too,science is on the way to salvation.
这种状况已经离开了伊希德，随着冠状病毒，没有孙辈的探访，并且不习惯这种脱节。第三次结婚(第一任妻子的孩子)，伊希德发现自己不止一次地想念，但他也相信，科学正在通往救赎的道路上。
"Quantum theory says you can be here and there,and you know what Einstein said about quantum theory?Which is the dumbest thing that can happen,but it works,"he says."And that also means we can maneuver in space-time,and while I sit with you here,I can also sit with my daughter in Philadelphia.The granddaughters keep asking where Grandpa is,and that will allow us to be there,really there,not with alternative reality helmets.And you can Embrace your daughter even if she is in another country."Prof.Michio Kaku(Japanese-American physicist,one of the founders of string theory)said:'We will be able to jump 400 years forward like a frog.'Think about what has only happened in the last 50 years:how many years has there been an Internet?Cellular?Now think in terms of a 400-year leap."
他说:"量子理论说你可以在这里或那里，你知道爱因斯坦怎么说量子理论吗？这是可能发生的最愚蠢的事情，但它确实有效，"他说。"这也意味着我们可以在时空中进行机动，当我和你坐在这里的时候，我也可以和我在费城的女儿坐在一起。孙女们一直在问爷爷在哪里，这样我们就可以去那里，真的去那里，而不是戴着另类的现实头盔。你可以拥抱你的女儿，即使她在另一个国家。"加库道雄教授(日裔美国物理学家，弦理论的创始人之一)说:"我们将能像青蛙一样向前跳跃400年。"。想想在过去的50年里发生了什么:互联网出现了多少年了？蜂窝网络？现在想想400年的飞跃。"
Raa'nan Shaked
4.12.2020
2020年12月4日
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Do you want to share with us?
你想和我们一起分享吗？
Do you have any experience of contacting positive Extra-Terrestrial beings in the dream state?If so,and if you want to share it,you can send this to the following email addresses,then we will publish them on this blog.
你是否有过在梦境中与积极的外星人接触的经历？如果有，如果你想分享它，你可以把它发送到以下电子邮件地址，然后我们会在这个博客上发布它们。
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You are also invited to share your past life memories.Do you perhaps remember any lifetimes you had as an ET being before coming to Earth?
你也被邀请分享你过去的生活记忆。你是否还记得在你来到地球之前作为外星人的生活？
You can also send us your visions of the Golden Age as well.How would life on Earth be?How human beings would interact with positive ET?
你也可以把你对黄金时代的幻想发送给我们。地球上的生活会怎样？人类将如何与积极的外星人互动？
Those of you,who would like to share their memories,visions of Golden Age or dream time experience are free to do so anonymously if necessary.We also heartily welcome any pictures of ET dream encounters(or other interdimensional encounters).You do not need to be a professional artist,just draw from the heart,even if it is only a sketch–not a single sketch will be deemed as''too unprofessional to be posted''.
如果你们愿意分享他们的记忆，黄金时代的愿景或者梦想时间的经验，可以在必要的时候匿名这样做。我们也衷心欢迎任何关于外星人梦境遭遇(或其他次元间遭遇)的图片。你不需要成为一个专业的艺术家，只是从心里画，即使它只是一个素描-没有一个素描将被视为"太不专业的张贴"。
We prefer to receive your experience in English,but we are also happy to get them in any other languages and we will put up the English translation in our best efforts as well as the original version together.
我们希望得到您的英语经验，但我们也很高兴得到他们在任何其他语言，我们将提供英文翻译在我们的最大努力，以及原始版本在一起。
More information on what can be shared with us can be found here:
你可在此找到更多与我们分享的资料:
https://www.welovefirstcontact.com/2019/08/are-you-ready-for-first-contact.html
来源：https://www.welovefirstcontact.com/2020/12/head-of-israeli-space-program-aliens.html
