Sisterhood of the Rose organized a recent interview with Cobra about the importance of the upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation on April 5th at 2:45 AM UTC.In this interview,they discuss the coronavirus,financial situation,ascension,and much more,including the importance of the Ascension Timeline/End of the Coronavirus meditation on April 4th/5th,2020.
蔷薇圣女团最近组织了一次对柯博拉的采访，内容是关于即将到来的4月5日凌晨2:45扬升时间线/终结冠状病毒冥想的重要性。在这次采访中，他们讨论了冠状病毒、财务状况、提升等等，包括2020年4月4日/5日扬升时间线/终结冠状病毒冥想的重要性。
Below is the recording and transcript of this interview.
以下是本次采访的录音和文字记录。
Here is the recording of the interview on Sisterhood of the Rose's Youtube channel:
视频：https://youtu.be/LeK6mwDS9Oo
以下是蔷薇圣女团Youtube频道的采访录音:
Here is the transcript of the interview:
以下是采访记录:
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Debra:Hi,my name is Debra and I'm a Sisterhood of the Rose group leader in the United States.Today I have the pleasure of speaking again with Cobra,who is the chief intel provider for the Resistance Movement,where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog 2012portal.blogspot.com.Welcome Cobra,and thank you for doing this interview!
Debra:嗨，我叫黛布拉，我是美国蔷薇圣女团的组长。今天，我有幸再次与Cobra交谈，他是抵抗运动的主要情报提供者，在他的博客上，他提供了重要的行星和银河信息2012portal.blogspot.com。欢迎Cobra，感谢你接受这次采访！
Cobra:Thank you for the invitation.
柯博拉:谢谢你的邀请。
Debra:Cobra,as you know,the mission of Sisterhood of the Rose is to offer humanity comfort,harmony,and peace during this end time madness(as you've called it),as well as during and after the Event.Currently,humanity is concerned,even panicked,over the recent coronavirus pandemic because so much is uncertain and unknown.We understand that much IS uncertain right now,but our intent with this interview is to gather answers to often-asked questions to help ease some of the uncertainties and tensions in people's minds.We would like to discuss with you the importance of the upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation on April 4 or 5(depending on time zones)to remove the coronavirus—and the fear it's causing—so we can shift the planetary evolution back into the most positive Ascension timeline.
Debra:柯博拉，如你所知，蔷薇圣女团的使命是在这个末日疯狂(你们这样称呼它)期间，以及事件发生期间和之后，为人类提供舒适、和谐与和平。目前，人类对最近的冠状病毒流行感到担忧，甚至恐慌，因为有太多的不确定性和未知性。我们知道现在很多事情都不确定，但我们这次采访的目的是为了收集经常被问到的问题的答案，以帮助缓解人们头脑中的一些不确定性和紧张情绪。我们想和你们讨论即将到来的扬升时间线/结束冠状病毒冥想的重要性(取决于时区)，以消除冠状病毒ーー以及它所引起的恐惧ーー这样我们就可以把行星进化回到最积极的扬升时间线。
Debra:I've put together quite a few questions,as well as received many questions from Sisterhood of the Rose groups around the world,so we have much to discuss today!Let's start with talking about what is going on with the coronavirus as there seems to be much confusion as to the agenda of this pandemic.As we understand it and you have indicated,it was initially launched as a nefarious plan of the dark in order to force vaccines that contain biochips to control the surface population that would pave the way for the release of 5G,digital currency,social credit scores,and a self-quarantine global New World Order dystopia–and I know you shared with us later that the Resistance was able to destroy these biochips but that the vaccines still could contain dangerous chemicals.But many people are now speculating that this agenda has been taken over by the Light Forces to allow this time of quarantines,travel bans,and closings so that last-attempt false flag events cannot happen and that they are using this time to do behind-the-scenes work(like potential mass arrests)to pave the way for the Event.So,Cobra,what exactly IS going on?Are both sides using this pandemic to their advantage?
Debra:我收集了很多问题，也收到了世界各地蔷薇圣女团的很多问题，所以我们今天有很多问题要讨论！让我们先谈谈冠状病毒正在发生什么，因为对于这场流行病的议程似乎有很多困惑。正如我们所理解的和你们所指出的，它最初是作为黑暗势力的邪恶计划发起的，目的是迫使含有生物芯片的疫苗控制地表人口，这将为5G的发布、数字货币、社会信用评分和自我隔离的全球新世界秩序的反乌托邦铺平道路——我知道你后来告诉我们，抵抗组织能够摧毁这些生物芯片，但疫苗仍然可能含有危险的化学物质。但是现在许多人猜测，这个议程已经被光明势力接管，允许这段时间的隔离、旅行禁令和关闭，以便最后一次尝试假旗事件不会发生，他们正在利用这段时间做幕后工作(比如潜在的大规模逮捕)，为这个事件铺平道路。柯博拉，到底是怎么回事？双方是否都在利用这场大流行病为自己谋利？
Cobra:The dark forces have initialized this pandemic a few months ago as you have said to promote dystopian New World Order society.Now the lights forces are using the situation,especially the situation of global mass quarantines,to further their plans for the Event.Actually,this quarantine situation is a great opportunity for the Light Forces to evaluate the behavior of the surface population and to create much better module models of how the surface population will react when the Event happens.So they are gathering precious,valuable intel right now which will make the Event operation much,much easier when it really happens.
柯博拉:黑暗势力在几个月前已经初始化了这场流行病，正如你所说的促进反乌托邦的新世界秩序社会。现在光力量正在利用这种情况，特别是全球大规模隔离的情况，来推进他们的事件计划。事实上，这种隔离状态对于光明势力来说是一个很好的机会来评估地表种群的行为，并且创造出更好的模块模型来模拟当事件发生时地表种群将如何反应。因此，他们现在正在收集宝贵的、有价值的情报，这将使事件操作变得更加容易，当它真正发生时。
Debra:Did the dark forces have any idea that when they released this virus as a bioweapon that the Light Forces might use this opportunity to do purification work on the planet in preparation for the Event?
Debra:当黑暗势力释放这种病毒作为生化武器时，他们有没有想过光明势力可能会利用这个机会在地球上进行净化工作，为这次事件做准备？
Cobra:Their expectation was for this virus to be much more dangerous,much more lethal.They were targeting a mass pandemic scenario where I would say 5 billion people infected and 50 million people dead.This was their goal;this was phase one of their operation.And phase two would be the total collapse of surface society into a"Mad Max"scenario.This was their goal,their plan.Of course,this did not happen,and it will not happen.
柯博拉:他们的预期是这种病毒会更加危险，更加致命。他们针对的是一个大规模流行的情景，我估计会有50亿人感染，5000万人死亡。这是他们的目标，这是他们行动的第一阶段。第二阶段将是地面社会的彻底崩溃，演变成"疯狂的麦克斯"。这是他们的目标，他们的计划。当然，这种情况没有发生，也不会发生。
Debra:Can they do anything at this point to stop the positive progress that the Light Forces are making during these quarantines?
Debra:他们现在能做点什么来阻止光明势力在隔离期间所取得的积极进展吗？
Cobra:What is happening is this whole coronavirus pandemic situation was a surprise to a certain degree for the Light Forces.Dark forces had certain advantages few months ago when they started with this operation,but this advantage is getting less and less and less.So situation is now turning slowly but surely in the favor of the Light Forces.
柯博拉:正在发生的是，整个冠状病毒的流行状况在某种程度上让光明势力感到惊讶。几个月前，当黑暗势力开始这项行动时，他们有一定的优势，但是这种优势越来越少了。所以现在的情况正在缓慢但是肯定地向有利于光明势力的方向转变。
Debra:OK,good.If martial law is declared in the USA,or any country,would this be done by the positive military so that mass arrests could begin?Or would this be done by the dark to increase more fear?And how likely is it that we'll see martial law at this point?
Debra:好的，很好。如果美国或者其他任何国家宣布戒严，是否会由积极的军方来实施，以便开始大规模的逮捕？或者这样做是为了增加更多的恐惧？现在我们看到戒严令的可能性有多大？
Cobra:You need to understand that in every country they are both light factions and dark factions occupying the same government structure in every country.So if or when martial law is declared in a certain country both factions will play out their scenarios.But I would say the outcome is expected to be positive.I'm not expecting any drastic New World Order scenarios at this point.This point has been passed already.We were in a dangerous place a few weeks ago,but now the situation is looking much better.
柯博拉:你需要明白，在每个国家，他们都是光明派系和黑暗派系，在每个国家都占据着同样的政府结构。因此，如果或当戒严法宣布在某个国家，两个派别将发挥他们的情况。但我认为结果应该是积极的。在这一点上，我并不期待任何极端的新世界秩序场景。这一点已经过去了。几个星期前我们处在一个危险的地方，但现在情况看起来好多了。
Debra:Are you able to share any updates on the mass arrests?
Debra:你能分享关于大规模逮捕的最新消息吗？
Cobra:No,actually all the plans of the mass arrest scenarios are strictly classified.I can only comment on what other people have released that I can say that the plan Drake has released is actually the plan that the positive military faction had a few weeks ago.I cannot comment on if that plan is valid or not,and also I would say there are other factions and other groups involved and that's just a hypothetical scenario that could possibly happen.I am not saying this would happen.
柯博拉:不，实际上所有的大规模逮捕计划都是严格保密的。我只能评论其他人已经公布的，我可以说德雷克公布的计划实际上是积极的军事派别几个星期前的计划。我不能评论这个计划是否有效，而且我还要说还有其他派系和其他团体参与其中，这只是一个可能发生的假设情景。我并不是说这会发生。
Debra:The coronavirus is obviously real as people are getting sick and there are even deaths associated with it,but is there accuracy in the news and numbers that organizations like the CDC and WHO give out or are they being inflated to create fear?
Debra:这种冠状病毒显然是真的，因为人们正在生病，甚至还有与之相关的死亡病例，但是像疾病预防控制中心和世界卫生组织这样的组织发布的新闻和数字是否准确，或者它们是否被夸大以制造恐？
Cobra:Again,there are many interest groups and many factions with different motivations and different agendas throughout the world.Some of the factions and some countries want to downplay the impact of the virus,they want to lower the numbers.Some of the factions or even some of the countries want to make it even worse than it really is so the numbers are different and not correct.But what is approximately correct is the shape of the curve.From the shape of the curve you can sophistically estimate what will happen,and current estimation that were released in the mass media about few million people infected and a few hundred thousand people dead are probably quite correct.
柯博拉:再一次，有许多利益集团和许多派系有不同的动机和不同的议程在世界各地。一些派系和一些国家希望淡化病毒的影响，他们希望降低人数。一些派系甚至一些国家想让情况变得更糟，所以人数不同，也不正确。但是近似正确的是曲线的形状。从曲线的形状，你可以诡辩地估计将会发生什么，目前大众媒体公布的估计大约有几百万人感染和几十万人死亡可能是相当正确的。
Debra:You've mentioned that much of the fear is due to non-physical entities co-existing in our energy fields,and that one of the things the Light Forces have been able to do recently is clear out these entities in the plasma fields because the entities are not able to be transmitted during the quarantines.How does isolating ourselves starve and prevent the spread of these entities?Are they transmitted by physical human contact,by emotionally and mentally dealing with each other on a daily basis,or simply by our energy fields overlapping when we are near others?
Debra:你提到过很多恐惧是由于在我们的能量场中共存的非物质实体，而光明势力最近能做的事情之一就是清除等离子场中的这些实体，因为这些实体在隔离期间不能被传送。如何孤立我们自己饿死和防止这些实体的传播？它们是通过人与人之间的身体接触传播的，是通过每天在情感和精神上相互交流传播的，还是仅仅通过当我们靠近他人时我们的能量场重叠传播的？
Cobra:First,the good news is that all plasma entities are basically gone.We are now dealing with etheric and lower astral entities which are much easier to deal with.The Light Forces are using this quarantine status on the planet with people self-isolating as a wonderful tool to drastically accelerate the clearing of all those entities.Some of those entities have been around the surface of the planet for thousands of years;jumping from generation to generation,from mother to her children,and then to grandchildren.The same entity was possessing the family line for many centuries and now,as you have said,energy fields of people are not overlapping anymore because of social distancing so those entities are being starved.
柯博拉:首先，好消息是所有的等离子体实体基本上都消失了。我们现在正在处理以太和较低的星体实体，它们更容易处理。光明势力正在利用这个地球上的隔离状态，让人们自我隔离成为一个极好的工具，以彻底加速所有这些实体的清除。其中一些实体已经在地球表面存在了数千年;一代又一代的跳跃，从母亲跳到她的孩子，然后又跳到孙子。正如你所说的那样，由于社会距离的拉远，人类的能量领域不再重叠，因此这些实体正在遭受饥饿。
They need interaction,physical interaction,physical proximity of other entity-infested people to sustain themselves,to maintain their presence.They're being starved out,and to a certain degree,the spread of those entities is similar to infection with a virus.It is actually a type of energy virus which has infected humanity 25,000 years ago.Not only the physical coronavirus is being removed,also all those entities and energetic viruses are being removed,which will drastically improve the state of humanity.So regardless of the fact that this coronavirus is not a pleasant situation,it can be quite scary sometimes,but the outcome will be dramatically positive from the evolutionary perspective.Much of the old archon infection will be simply starved out and will be gone when those mass quarantines are over.
他们需要互动，身体互动，身体接近其他实体感染的人维持自己，维持他们的存在。它们正在被饿死，在某种程度上，这些实体的传播类似于病毒感染。它实际上是一种能量病毒，在25000年前感染了人类。不仅物理冠状病毒正在被移除，而且所有这些实体和活跃的病毒也正在被移除，这将极大地改善人类的状态。所以，尽管这种冠状病毒并不是一个令人愉快的情况，有时候它可能是相当可怕的，但是从进化的角度来看，结果将是非常积极的。大部分旧的执政官感染将会被饿死，当这些大规模隔离结束后就会消失。
Debra:That's interesting and very good news too.What about the last line of defense the Chimera has used by activating the plasma that creates toplet bombs within the physical implants of all surface humans?Is there a toplet bomb in the implants of ALL surface population?What are the impacts of this and how can we deal with it?Is there anything we can do to help remove these or is something only the Light Forces can do?
Debra:这很有趣，也是非常好的消息。奇美拉使用的最后一道防线是激活等离子体，在所有地表人类的物理植入体内制造顶夸克炸弹，这道防线又是怎样的呢？在所有表面种群的植入物中是否有顶夸克炸弹？这种情况的影响是什么，我们如何应对？我们能做些什么来帮助移除这些吗?或者只有光明势力能做些什么？
Cobra:Yes,this is the last line of defense,I would say the strongest among the last line of defense.It has been activated to the degree that those implants are now producing the toplets,producing rotating black holes.The Light Forces are dealing with this quite effectively.What everybody can do,or I would say the most awakened people can do,is to clear the implant,especially the ones in the frontal lobe of the brain.They can clear those implants with violet flame.They can use implant clearing protocols which I have discussed at my conferences.I have posted videos.I have posted instructions.People can check the notes from the conferences.There are various techniques people can use to help dissolve the implants,especially some of the primary belief systems which have been implanted.This will,of course,help the Light Forces in dissolving the whole structure.
柯博拉:是的，这是最后一道防线，我想说是最后一道防线中最强的一道。它已经被激活的程度，这些植入物现在正在生产的顶部，产生旋转黑洞。光明势力正在非常有效地处理这个问题。每个人都可以做的，或者我可以说是最清醒的人都可以做的，就是清除植入物，尤其是大脑额叶的植入物。他们可以用紫色火焰清除这些植入物。他们可以使用我在会议上讨论过的植入物清除协议。我上传了一些视频。我已经发布了指示。人们可以查阅会议记录。有各种各样的技术，人们可以用来帮助溶解植入物，特别是一些主要的信念系统已经被植入。当然，这将有助于光明势力溶解整个结构。
Debra:One of those protocols,is that doing the"I am God.I am not God"protocol?
Debra:其中一个协议，就是那种"我是上帝，我不是上帝"的协议？
Cobra:Exactly.
柯博拉:没错。
Debra:How serious is this situation with the implants?
Debra:植入物的问题有多严重？
Cobra:It is basically the primary situation,the fall from Eden,the fall from paradise.This is the mechanism which has separated humanity from the Source.Ascension process is actually a process of removing the implants and reconnecting with the Source.
柯博拉:这基本上是主要的情况，从伊甸园堕落，从天堂堕落。这就是将人类与源头分离的机制。扬升过程实际上是一个移除植入物并与源头重新连接的过程。
Debra:What about now with this activating the plasma that creates toplet bombs within the implants—how serious is that?
Debra:现在用这个激活等离子体，在植入物内部制造顶夸克炸弹ーー这有多严重？
Cobra:Actually it is a very advanced negative quantum technology which has until now prevented the Light Forces from accessing the implants and removing them,but now the Light Forces,especially in the last few years,were working specifically with total dedication and focus in removing those technologies and they are being quite successful,especially now in the last few months when this coronavirus has given them opportunities to access this more directly.
柯博拉:实际上，这是一种非常先进的负量子技术，迄今为止，它阻止了光明势力接近并移除植入物，但是现在，光明势力，特别是在过去的几年里，正全力以赴地工作，专注于移除这些技术，他们相当成功，特别是在过去的几个月里，这种冠状病毒给了他们更直接地接触这些技术的机会。
Debra:Good.In your recent Prepare for Change interview,you mentioned that there is a quantum war taking place–can you explain what you mean by quantum war?
Debra:很好。在你最近的准备转变采访中，你提到有一场量子战争正在发生——你能解释一下你所说的量子战争是什么意思吗？
Cobra:Yes,to a certain degree,the Light Forces have advanced technologies with which they can remove the implants.They're dealing with the toplet bombs and with other quantum technologies.The dark forces also have,and had,especially the Chimera group and more advanced negative races,had certain advanced quantum technologies with which they were counteracting the progress of the Light Forces.This war has reached a peak in the last few months.Now the tide is turning slowly towards the victory of the light in those areas.
柯博拉:是的，在某种程度上，光明势力拥有先进的技术可以移除植入物。他们正在处理顶夸克炸弹和其他量子技术。黑暗势力，尤其是奇美拉群体和更先进的消极种族，也拥有某些先进的量子技术，用来抵制光明势力的进步。这场战争在过去几个月中达到了顶峰。现在这些地区的潮流正在慢慢转向光明的胜利。
Debra:Very good.Is the corona panic a smokescreen,a distraction,for this quantum war that both the light and dark forces don't want the surface population to know about?
Debra:很好。冠状恐慌是一个烟幕，一个干扰，对于这场量子战争，光明和黑暗的力量都不想让地球表面的人知道吗？
Cobra:Actually,intel about this quantum war is out already.The fear of the coronavirus is real.It was triggered by the disease,and,of course,being manipulated by the mass media.The coronavirus pandemic itself is,I would say,a side effect of collateral damage of this war.
柯博拉:事实上，关于这场量子战争的情报已经出来了。对冠状病毒的恐惧是真实存在的。它是由疾病引发的，当然，是被大众媒体操纵的。我想说，冠状病毒大流行本身就是这场战争附带损害的副作用。
Debra:What are some potential scenarios we could see in the future as a result of this war,both positive and negative?
Debra:作为这场战争的结果，我们在未来可以看到哪些潜在的情景，正面的和负面的？
Cobra:Of course,dark forces want to promote their New World Order agenda.They had some limited success in this in the last few weeks,but at the same time the Light Forces have even greater successes in removing non-physical entities,removing negative quantum technology.As I have said,the most likely scenario is about a few million people infected,a few hundred thousand people dead,with mass quarantine ending in about a month or two.I would not go further in the details of what the Light Forces will do and how they'll respond to the situation because that's still classified.
柯博拉:当然，黑暗势力想要推动他们的新世界秩序议程。在过去的几个星期里，他们在这方面取得了一些有限的成功，但与此同时，光明势力在消除非物质实体，消除负的量子技术方面取得了更大的成功。正如我所说，最有可能的情况是大约有几百万人感染，几十万人死亡，大规模隔离在一两个月内结束。我不会进一步详述光明势力将会做什么，以及他们将如何应对这种情况，因为这仍然是机密。
Debra:OK,so let's discuss how we can contribute towards creating a positive timeline in this quantum field–do you feel our upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation is the most powerful thing we can do right now as a collective to help the situation on planet Earth?Why is that?
Debra:好吧，那么让我们来讨论一下我们如何在这个量子领域创造一个积极的时间线——你觉得我们即将到来的扬升时间线/结束冠状病毒冥想是我们作为一个集体目前能够做的最有力的事情来帮助地球上的形势吗？为什么？
Cobra:Yes,of course.Mass meditation with people with a sufficiently large number of people meditating is the single most effective thing we can do because if we create a laser-like dedicated focused signal in the coherent quantum field,we change the quantum fluctuations.We change the quantum foam.We inform the quantum field of the whole planet what the future is.We actually entrain the quantum field.We push the timeline.We push the stream of the time factor in a certain direction.This is something that is extremely powerful.People underestimate the power of group meditation and power of group decision.We can literally change the course of history.We have a script.We have a certain dedication.We have certain things that people can visualize.We will visualize the removal of the virus.We will visualize the new reality that we would like to create.If the critical mass is reached,we will definitely shift things in that direction.
柯博拉:是的，当然。如果我们在相干量子场中创造出一个类似激光的聚焦信号，我们就可以改变量子涨落。因此，与一足够多人一起进行集体冥想是我们能做的唯一最有效的事情。我们改变了量子泡沫。我们告诉整个地球的量子场未来是什么样的。我们实际上纠缠着量子场。我们推迟时间。我们把时间因素推向一个特定的方向。这是一个非常强大的东西。人们低估了集体冥想和集体决策的力量。我们真的可以改变历史的进程。我们有一个剧本。我们有一定的奉献精神。我们有一些人们可以想象的东西。我们将展示病毒的去除过程。我们将观想我们想要创造的新的现实。如果达到临界质量，我们肯定会朝那个方向转变。
Debra:Wonderful!The time of this mass meditation on April 4/5 is scheduled at the moment of the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction,which is one of 13 significant synodic cycles taking place this year.You've said this will be the first moment when a truly powerful energy of Age of Aquarius will hit the surface of the planet.Can you explain this in more detail and why doing the meditation at this moment is so important?
Debra:太好了！4月4/5日这次大众冥想的时间安排在Jupiter-Pluto合相的时刻，这是今年13个重要的同步周期之一。你说过这将是宝瓶座时代真正强大的能量第一次撞击地球表面。你能更详细地解释一下为什么此时此刻进行冥想如此重要吗？
Cobra:First,I need to correct here.Jupiter Pluto conjunction happening now is not yet the synodic cycle.This Jupiter Pluto conjunction is seen from the surface of planet Earth.Synodic cycle of Jupiter and Pluto conjunction comes on July 31st;this is when you will see Jupiter Pluto conjunction from the center of the Sun.But this actual conjunction as seen from Earth on April 4th and 5th is a very powerful trigger.It is basically the most powerful trigger since January 11/12th when we had our last mass meditation,and this energy has a huge potential for a breakthrough of light.This is the moment where the Light Forces can take the lead,can take hold of[inaudible],and they can actually start dictating what will happen in this dynamic situation.
柯博拉:首先，我需要纠正这里。现在发生的木星-冥王星合相还不是天文周期。这是从地球表面看到的木星与冥王星的合相。木星和冥王星合相的天文周期发生在7月31日，这时你将从太阳的中心看到木星和冥王星的合相。但是在4月4日和5日从地球上看到的这次实际的连接是一个非常强大的触发器。这基本上是自1月11/12日我们最后一次集体冥想以来最强大的触发器，这种能量有着光的突破的巨大潜力。在这个时刻，光明势力可以带头，可以掌控(听不见)，他们可以真正开始指示在这个动态的情况下会发生什么。
Debra:Yes,so it's very critical.In the early sixties,four sisters at Garabandal received a vision of a miracle which would happen near Easter. Some have interpreted this as being the arrival of the galactic superwave as occurring in April 2020. Is this part of the reason this meditation at the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction is so important?
Debra:是的，所以它非常重要。在六十年代早期，Garabandal的四姐妹收到了一个奇迹的幻象，这个奇迹将在复活节附近发生。有些人将其解释为2020年4月银河超级波的到来。这就是为什么在Jupiter-Pluto会合的冥想如此重要的原因吗？
Cobra:I would say that Easter of this year is another quite powerful energy portal.I cannot comment on what will happen there or what might happen then.But I would say the timing of the galactic superwave is not yet determined to the degree that could be released publicly.
柯博拉:我想说，今年的复活节是另一个相当强大的能量入口。我不能评论那里会发生什么，也不能评论那时会发生什么。但是我想说，银河系超级波的时间还没有确定到可以公开发布的程度。
Debra:OK.Normally our goal for these global meditations is to achieve critical mass,which is around 144,000 people,however you have stated that it's important for this upcoming meditation that our numbers are higher,ideally around 1 million people.Why is this?
Debra:好的。通常我们这些全球冥想的目标是达到临界质量----大约144,000人----然而你已经说过，对于这个即将到来的冥想来说，我们的数量更高是很重要的，最好是100万人左右。为什么会这样？
Cobra:It is because we have an amazing opportunity this time.The consequences of our meditation can be far more outreaching because the situation we are now having on the planet is something that has never happened before.It is not business as usual anymore.People are more open for unusual solutions.They are more open to the Spirit.They are more open to the higher connection because many have realized that life as was is over.
柯博拉:这是因为我们这次有一个绝佳的机会。我们冥想的后果可能会更加严重，因为我们现在在这个星球上的处境是以前从未发生过的。这不再是一切照旧了。人们对不寻常的解决方案更加开放。他们对圣灵更加开放。他们对更高的连接更加开放，因为许多人已经意识到过去的生活已经结束了。
Debra:What would be the difference in outcome between a critical mass of 144,000 and a critical mass of 1 million people participating?
Debra:144,000人的临界质量和100万人的临界质量之间的结果有什么不同？
Cobra:For example,in our last meditation had just about reached the critical mass of 144,000.We have managed to keep the positive timeline but barely.So this is why the situation since then until now was like walking on the edge.If we had one million people meditating in January,most likely the pandemic would not even be able to be possible.I would say that many times in the past,our actions have prevented similar scenarios.This is not the first time the dark forces are planning something like this;usually each year on average about two situations are like these are prevented and never even come into the mass media.Light Forces are preventing them before they even happen and sometimes our meditations have prevented things like this.
柯博拉:例如，在我们上一次的冥想中已经达到了144,000的临界质量。我们已经设法保持了积极的时间线，但仅此而已。所以这就是为什么从那时起到现在的情况就像是走在悬崖边上。如果我们有一百万人在一月份进行冥想，很可能这场大流行病甚至不可能发生。我要说的是，在过去很多次，我们的行动阻止了类似的情况发生。这已经不是黑暗势力第一次计划这样的事情了;通常每年大约有两种情况像这样被阻止，甚至从来没有进入大众媒体。光明势力甚至在它们发生之前就阻止了它们，有时我们的冥想已经阻止了这样的事情。
Debra:Did our"booster"meditation on March 22 help increase the likeliness of success for our April 4/5 meditation?
Debra:我们3月22日的"助推器"冥想有助于提高我们4月4日/5日冥想成功的可能性吗？
Cobra:Yes,of course it has,it did.Our prognosis is quite good.We are hopeful that we can reach the critical mass of at least 144000 or even one million.We will see what will happen.
柯博拉:是的，当然有，它有。我们的预后相当好。我们希望我们能够达到至少144000甚至100万的临界质量。我们将拭目以待。
Debra:How is the"Unity in the Community"going?Are leaders and their followers jumping on board to participate?
Debra:"社区团结"进行得怎么样了?领导者和他们的追随者都加入进来了吗？
Cobra:Many of them are,even some I would never expect they would,but there are certain people who I would say could really make a difference and,for some reason,are choosing not to.Basically,I will be able to comment on this after the Event.Before that,I would refrain from saying more on that.
柯博拉:他们中的许多人是，甚至有些人我从来没有想到他们会，但有一些人，我会说，真的可以有所作为，而且，出于某些原因，选择不这样做。基本上，我将能够评论这个事件之后。在此之前，我不想再多说了。
Debra:OK.With enough people participating on April 4/5,we can create a positive timeline for humanity,that is our goal.What does that positive timeline look like?And without enough people participating,does that mean we would stay on a course of a negative timeline,and what does that look like?
Debra:好的。有足够多的人参加4月4日/5日的活动，我们就能为人类创造一个积极的时间线，这就是我们的目标。这个积极的时间线是什么样的？如果没有足够多的人参与进来，这是否意味着我们将继续处于一个消极的时间线上，这看起来像什么？
Cobra:OK,we are still in a war.Light Forces are doing whatever they can,and the dark forces are doing whatever they can in their one way.The basic positive timeline has been secured,so that means that there will be the Event,there will be Ascension,there will be the liberation of the planet.That is secure,but we would like to make our journey to that particular moment as smooth as possible,as positive as possible.By reaching the critical mass we will ensure that this goes much easier.But again,we are in the war and there are surprises so I will not make any predictions about what will happen.I am sure that if we reach the critical mass,our future will be much brighter and our way to the final goal will be much easier.
柯博拉:好吧，我们还在打仗。光明势力正在做他们能做的一切，而黑暗力量正在用他们的一种方式做他们能做的一切。基本的积极时间线已经被确保，这意味着将会有事件，将会有扬升，将会有地球的解放。这是安全的，但我们希望我们的旅程，使我们的特定时刻尽可能顺利，尽可能积极。通过达到临界质量，我们将确保这一切变得容易得多。但是，我们又一次身处战争之中，而且还有意外发生，所以我不会对将要发生的事情做任何预测。我相信，如果我们达到临界质量，我们的未来将更加光明，我们实现最终目标的道路将更加容易。
Debra:What happened last time,didn't we secure a positive timeline in our last meditation in January?What caused this to be compromised,did the coronavirus have anything to do with that?
Debra:上次发生了什么，我们在一月份的最后一次冥想中没有确定一个积极的时间线吗？是什么导致了这种危害，冠状病毒与此有关吗？
Cobra:Yes,we did secure the basic positive timeline.We are going into the new Age of Aquarius,that had not changed.One thing that happened was that we had barely reached a critical mass,so it was enough,but barely enough.And the other thing is that there were certain things happening behind the scenes which were not very good,there were infiltration in teams,also in my team there was serious infiltration.Parts of the light network were compromised.Also there were some other situations which were not developing as we have hoped they would.Also,in the last two years,the Light Forces were taking some extraordinary steps to make certain aspects of the most awakened surface operation lightworkers to be ready for certain missions and that operation has failed almost completely,so it was known already in the summer of last year there will be some kind of a crash happening.I have received talks about financial crash since August last year.Information was given there is not enough time to create Islands of Light.I was not expecting a pandemic,but there was intel coming that we need to prepare for a hard landing,for a hard crush.This is what is happening.
柯博拉:是的，我们确实确保了基本的积极时间线。我们正进入水瓶座的新时代，这个时代并没有改变。发生的一件事是，我们几乎没有达到临界质量，所以这是足够的，但是几乎不够。另一件事是，在幕后发生了一些不太好的事情，有人在团队里渗透，也有人在我的团队里严重渗透。光网络的一部分被破坏了。还有一些其他情况没有像我们所希望的那样发展。此外，在过去的两年里，光明势力正在采取一些非同寻常的步骤，使最清醒的地面行动光之工作者的某些方面为某些任务做好准备，而这项行动已经几乎完全失败了，所以在去年夏天就已经知道将会发生某种坠机事件。自去年8月以来，我就收到了有关金融危机的讨论。提供的信息没有足够的时间来创造光之岛。我没有预料到会发生大规模的流行病，但是有情报显示，我们需要为硬着陆做准备，为硬着陆做准备。这就是正在发生的事情。
Debra:Yes,I'd like to talk to you in a moment about the financial situation,but I just have a few more questions about our meditation.Is this meditation effectively a choice for humanity between the Event happening slightly later this year or the Delta Option,where the Federal Reserve System is shut down,a Special Secret Forces group initiates the removal of the cabal(but not the Jesuits,Black Nobility,Chimera,and Archons),occurring before the non-physical planes are cleared out,within the USA only,with the US Dollar collapsing,full disclosure not happening immediately,triggering a strong international reaction where we would experience an unstable and chaotic transition to the Event?Are we making a choice in terms of the amount of participants as to whether we would have more of a smooth transition to the Event or whether we would have to choose the Delta Option?
Debra:是的，我想和你谈谈财务状况，但是我还有几个关于我们冥想的问题。这种冥想实际上是人类的一种选择，是在今年稍晚发生的事件，还是在联邦储备系统关闭的三角洲选择，一个特殊秘密力量集团发起清除阴谋集团(但不是耶稣会、黑色贵族、奇美拉和执政官)，发生在非物质层面被清除之前，仅仅在美国，美元崩溃，全面披露不会立即发生，引发强烈的国际反应，我们将经历一个不稳定和混乱的过渡到事件？我们是否就参加人数作出选择，以决定我们是否可以更顺利地过渡到赛事，或者我们是否必须选择德尔塔方案？
Cobra:As I said,I cannot comment on concrete plans of the Light Forces at this moment.I cannot even comment on Delta Option at this moment.But I will say that if we reach the critical mass,our path will be definitely smoother.
柯博拉:正如我所说的，我现在不能对光明势力的具体计划发表评论。我现在甚至不能对达美航空做出评论。但我要说的是，如果我们达到临界质量，我们的道路肯定会更平坦。
Debra:You have said that this upcoming meditation is a"test for the surface population whether it will be able to manifest unity or not.The Light Forces will be monitoring the level of cooperation and will use that as one of the determining factors for the immediate future plans for the Event."Would you please explain what you mean by this?What happens if we"fail"this test?
Debra:你说过这个即将到来的冥想是一个"对表面人口是否能够表现统一的测试"。光明势力将监测合作的程度，并将此作为近期活动计划的决定因素之一。"请你解释一下这是什么意思好吗？如果我们"失败"这个测试会发生什么？
Cobra:This test is not meant as a test in school.It is more that the Light Forces are monitoring how the surface population reacts so that they better understand how to carry out the Event operations:who to contact,who to be left out,who is reliable,and who is not.This the final test of that nature.After this test is over,they will not be evaluating surface population anymore,as they already have quite a good understanding of what they can expect from particular key individuals.This quarantine situation also gives them a lot of understanding of the group dynamic in a situation that is quite similar to the Event.
柯博拉:这个考试不是学校里的考试。更重要的是，光明势力正在监测地表人口的反应，以便他们更好地了解如何进行事件操作:联系谁，谁被排除在外，谁是可靠的，谁不是。这是对这种性质的最后考验。在这个测试结束后，他们将不再评估表面种群，因为他们已经有了一个相当好的理解，他们可以期待从特定的关键个体。这种隔离情况还使他们能够在非常类似于Event的情况下对组动态有很多了解。
Debra:Interesting,that makes sense.So,we all know it's important to keep our immune system strong right now,and being fearful can have a big impact on weakening it,so I'd like to discuss a series of topics about things many people have questions and fear about to provide them information to ease some of the uncertainty.The first thing I'd like to discuss is the financial situation.
Debra:有意思，有道理。所以，我们都知道现在保持我们的免疫系统强大是很重要的，而且恐惧会对削弱免疫系统产生很大的影响，所以我想讨论一系列的话题，关于很多人都有疑问和恐惧的事情，以便提供给他们一些信息来缓解一些不确定性。我想讨论的第一件事是财务状况。
Debra:During our last interview in January for the Age of Aquarius meditation,you indicated that the financial collapse would be a gradual meltdown,yet in your report following that meditation,you then said that was no longer an option and that it would be sudden and brutal.What happened to change it from gradual to sudden?Was it the work of the light or dark forces to cause this change?
Debra:在我们一月份对水瓶座时代冥想的最后一次采访中，你指出金融崩溃将是一个逐渐的崩溃，然而在你冥想之后的报告中，你又说那不再是一个选择，它将是突然和残酷的。发生了什么变化，从渐进到突然？是光明的力量还是黑暗的力量造成了这种改变？
Cobra:The Light Forces have simply seen that the dark forces can do their manipulations of the economy to the degree that it is not possible to gradually go through the purification process of the financial situation.That's not possible because the dark forces will always use one trick after another to mask,to suppress,and to manipulate the financial system.So the Light Forces will do a surprise attack when the time is right and they will crash the whole thing in a way that's the dark financial actions will not be able to deal with.
柯博拉:光明势力只是看到黑暗势力可以操纵经济，以至于不可能逐渐通过财政状况的净化过程。这是不可能的，因为黑暗势力总是一个接一个地使用诡计来掩盖、压制和操纵金融系统。所以当时机成熟的时候，光明势力会发动一次突然袭击，他们会以一种黑暗财政行动无法应对的方式摧毁整个事情。
Debra:During your recent We Love Mass Meditation interview,you indicated that it's possible that this crash could happen before our April 4/5 meditation.Could this still be the case?
Debra:在你最近的《我们热爱集体冥想》访谈中，你指出这次碰撞可能发生在我们的4月4日/5日冥想之前。这种情况还会发生吗？
Cobra:It is possible but less likely as things are developing now.This is not a highly probable possibility at this point.
柯博拉:这是可能的，但不太可能，因为事情正在发展。在这一点上，这种可能性不大。
Debra:If our upcoming meditation is a success,which we are planning on it to be,can this ease the financial crash or it's basically going to be a hard crash no matter what?
Debra:如果我们即将到来的冥想成功了，就像我们计划的那样，这能缓解金融危机吗?或者不管怎样，它基本上都会是一场硬崩溃？
Cobra:It will not be the final crash,because the final crash will happen just before the Event,but it can definitely ease the time between now and the Event.
柯博拉:这不会是最后的碰撞，因为最后的碰撞将发生在事件之前，但它绝对可以减小从现在到事件之间的时间。
Debra:So far none of the banks have collapsed,but are they getting ready to?I recently received a notice from JP Morgan Chase Bank that they sold my mortgage loan to a company I've never heard of to be effective immediately.Is this because they know they are going to collapse soon?If the banks collapse,what would happen to people like me with mortgages?
Debra:到目前为止，没有一家银行倒闭，但是他们准备好了吗？我最近收到摩根大通银行的通知，说他们把我的抵押贷款卖给了一家我从未听说过的公司，这家公司将立即生效。这是因为他们知道自己很快就会崩溃吗？如果银行倒闭，像我这样有抵押贷款的人会怎么样？
Cobra:This is what I was speaking about just before,they're using all kinds of manipulations to keep the system running in the way that they can grab as much money as possible.Bank collapses are not likely at this point;they can happen at a later stage of the collapse,but not yet as it seems right now.What will happen with the mortgages is that all debt will collapse in a hard crash just before the Event.
柯博拉:这就是我刚才所说的，他们正在使用各种各样的手段来保持系统的运行，以便他们能够尽可能多地获取金钱。目前银行倒闭的可能性不大;它们可能发生在崩溃的后期阶段，但不是现在看起来的那样。抵押贷款将会发生的是，所有的债务将会在事件发生之前的一次硬崩溃中崩溃。
Debra:And bank credit cards would not be able to be used either?
Debra:那银行信用卡也不能用了吗？
Cobra:Exactly.
柯博拉:没错。
Debra:Maybe that's why the Resistance Movement has advised taking cash out of the banks.People are wondering what would happen to their money in the banks?Does this mean all or most of our money should be taken out,or just enough cash to pay bills for a month or so while the system resets?
Debra:也许这就是为什么抵抗运动建议从银行取出现金。人们想知道他们的钱在银行里会发生什么？这是否意味着我们所有或大部分的钱应该被取出，或者只是足够的现金支付一个月左右的账单，而系统重置？
Cobra:Right now it is common sense to take some of the money from the bank so you have cash ready if you need to buy groceries,if you need to go to a store,in this global quarantine you need to have some cash on the side for those kinds of expenses.Regarding the Event situation,taking money out of the bank you need to use your own inner guidance.There has been enough intel released in the last eight years about how to prepare for the Event.
柯博拉:现在从银行取一些钱是常识，这样你就有现金准备，如果你需要买杂货，如果你需要去商店，在这个全球隔离，你需要有一些现金在这些类型的开支方面。关于事件的情况，从银行取钱，你需要使用你自己的内在指导。在过去的八年里，已经有足够的情报公布于众，告诉我们如何为这次活动做准备。
Debra:Right!According to MSN,there is a proposal to have a cashless system,where the bank would essentially become caretakers of your cash and would charge you for the service.Is this true,and does this mean that one faction of the Black Nobility/cabal is winning out in this situation if this happens?
Debra:没错！根据MSN的说法，有一个无现金系统的建议，在这个系统中，银行本质上将成为你现金的管理者，并向你收取服务费。这是真的吗?如果发生这种情况，这是否意味着黑色贵族/阴谋集团的一个派系正在取得胜利？
Cobra:Yes,there are proposals in this direction.Of course,this Black Nobility faction is using this coronavirus pandemic to further their plans regarding a cashless society.There have been suggestions about this quite strong in the last week or two in the United States and Europe.But right now they are not winning yet,so there are other forces in play that can prevent this from happening.This was their plan.This plan was known,and there are actions being taken to stop this.
柯博拉:是的，有这方面的建议。当然，这个黑色贵族派系正在利用这种冠状病毒大流行来推进他们关于无现金社会的计划。在过去的一两个星期里，美国和欧洲已经有人对此提出了相当强烈的意见。但是现在他们还没有取得胜利，所以还有其他的力量在起作用，可以阻止这种情况发生。这是他们的计划。这个计划是众所周知的，我们正在采取行动来阻止这个计划。
Debra:It was recently announced that the US Federal Reserve is now bankrupted and controlled by the US Treasury,going from a private entity to a government agency.What happened and what does this mean for the people?Is this something positive to bring the gold standard back?
Debra:最近有人宣布，美国联邦储备委员会现在已经破产，由美国财政部控制，从一个私人实体转变为一个政府机构。发生了什么，这对人们意味着什么？这是恢复金本位制的积极举措吗？
Cobra:Well,this is not exactly like that.Usually it is that the US Federal Reserve and Treasury work hand in hand.They cooperate with each other.It is actually the Treasury which issues money out of thin air and the Federal Reserve purchases that and creating more debt in its balance sheet.So it's quite a complex mechanism which allows them to create money out of thin air.Almost nobody understands this.When they issue this aid of$2.2 trillion,which they have released now,or they will release in the economy,what they will do is that they will diminish the value of the dollar so an average person will not gain from this.They will actually lose part of their assets and they will lose part of their financial net worth.This is exactly what they want to do.This is why this has been released like this.
柯博拉:嗯，事情不完全是这样的。通常是美联储(fed)和美国财政部携手合作。他们彼此合作。实际上是财政部凭空发行货币，美联储购买这些货币，并在其资产负债表上创造更多的债务。因此，这是一个相当复杂的机制，允许他们凭空创造货币。几乎没有人理解这一点。当他们发放这2.2万亿美元的援助时，他们现在已经发放了，或者他们将在经济中发放，他们将做的是他们将减少美元的价值，这样一个普通人将不会从中受益。他们实际上会失去一部分资产，也会失去一部分财务净值。这正是他们想要做的。这就是为什么这样发布的原因。
Debra:How would people lose some of their assets in this?
Debra:人们怎么会在这种情况下损失一些资产呢？
Cobra:If you have a house which has been estimated to have a certain value,if the dollar depreciates because there is more dollars in circulation,the real value of your house will go down.
柯博拉:如果你的房子估计有一定的价值，如果美元贬值，因为有更多的美元在流通，你的房子的真正价值将下降。
Debra:Of course,that makes sense.Many people,businesses,and financial markets are experiencing financial hardship due to the coronavirus.Will major businesses close?Is a serious recession ahead?Is this one of the dark agendas of this virus?Or is this the light force's way to bring about a new,healthier financial system for all?
Debra:当然，这是有道理的。许多人，企业和金融市场正在经历由于冠状病毒造成的财政困难。主要业务会关闭吗？未来是否会出现严重的衰退？这是这种病毒的黑暗议程之一吗？还是说，这就是光明势力为所有人带来一个新的、更健康的金融体系的方式？
Cobra:It is a mixture of everything.Now all agendas are being released and in play.So the dark forces were not hoping for a recession,they were hoping for a total collapse of the society and that's not happening.What is happening is a process which actually has a good outcome.It's a process of people really finding their values,having a pause,having a little bit of a break to re-evaluate their life to exit from the rat race a little bit—and of course this has certain economic consequences,it has a certain impact on the world economy.But the economy as it was in the last few decades was not healthy.The goals for more and more profit at expense of human quality of life,and expense of human connections,was not a solution.Now more and more people are realizing this.
柯博拉:它是一切的混合物。现在，所有的议程都被释放出来，并开始运作。所以黑暗势力并不希望经济衰退，他们希望社会完全崩溃，而这并没有发生。正在发生的事情是一个实际上有一个好结果的过程。这是一个过程，人们真正找到自己的价值观，稍作停顿，稍作休息，重新评估自己的生活，稍微退出激烈的竞争——当然，这会产生一定的经济后果，对世界经济产生一定的影响。但是过去几十年的经济并不健康。以牺牲人类生活质量和人际关系为代价获取越来越多利益的目标，并不是一个解决方案。现在越来越多的人意识到了这一点。
Debra:During our last meditation where we reached critical mass,we understood it that the Light Forces could now more directly intervene in the system.Has that been happening?
Debra:在我们上次达到临界质量的冥想中，我们明白了光明势力现在可以更直接地干预系统。这种情况发生过吗？
Cobra:It is happening behind the scenes,but not publicly yet because the dark forces still control the mass media.
柯博拉:这是在幕后发生的，但还没有公开，因为黑暗势力仍然控制着大众媒体。
Debra:Going back to what you mentioned about the stimulus packages with this money that's being created,G20 announced that its members will invest 5 trillion dollars to stop the coronavirus outbreak and boost the economy.Some countries are giving money to people who cannot go to work.Lightworkers might relate such a large amount of funding to GESARA.Is all this a sign that Light Forces are already releasing some preliminary prosperity funds before the financial reset?
Debra:回到你刚才提到的用这笔钱制定的经济刺激计划，G20宣布其成员国将投资5万亿美元来阻止冠状病毒的爆发和刺激经济。一些国家正在给那些不能去工作的人钱。光之工作者可能会将如此大量的资金与GESARA联系起来。所有这一切是否意味着光明势力已经在财政重置之前释放了一些初步的繁荣基金？
Cobra:No,this has no relation to GESARA.
柯博拉:不，这和GESARA没有关系。
Debra:Ok,it it a positive thing that this money will be available to people or what is the agenda behind that?
Debra:好吧，这笔钱对人们来说是一件好事，或者这背后的目的是什么？
Cobra:It is basically the only thing that could happen because if the economy and businesses do not receive the stimulus,the system will collapse.The Federal Reserve had no other option than to release those funds.There was no other option,they were pushed to the wall.So in a way it's a good thing,but on the other hand,the dark forces are using the situation to consolidate their power even more.
柯博拉:这基本上是唯一可能发生的事情，因为如果经济和企业得不到刺激，系统将崩溃。美联储别无选择，只能释放这些资金。没有别的选择，他们被逼到了墙角。所以在某种程度上这是一件好事，但是在另一方面，黑暗势力正在利用这种情况来进一步巩固他们的力量。
So it's a double-edged sword.
所以这是一把双刃剑。
Debra:Like all of this,right?
Debra:就像这一切，对吗？
Cobra:Yes.
柯博拉:是的。
Debra:Is it possible yet for some lightworkers to start receiving funds from the Resistance Movement or the Light Forces?
Debra:有没有可能一些光之工作者开始接受来自抵抗运动或光明势力的资金？
Cobra:No,not before the Event.
柯博拉:不，不是在事件发生之前。
Debra:One big debate in the awakened community is whether Trump is working for the"good"guys or the"bad"guys.Some are convinced he is saving the world and others feel he is a puppet for the dark agenda.Which is it?
Debra:觉醒的社会中的一个大辩论是，特朗普是为"好人"工作还是为"坏人"工作。一些人相信他正在拯救世界，另一些人则认为他是黑暗议程的傀儡。到底是哪一个？
Cobra:He's not saving the world and he's not a dark operative.He is somewhere in between.He has his own agenda which is to make America great again and to make Trump great again.He has advisers;some of them are Jesuits-type of people,some of them are connected more to the Zionist faction.He also has some good advisers who are connected to the positive military.So sometimes he listens to one side and sometimes to the other side according to what serves his self-interest the most.
柯博拉:他不是在拯救世界，他也不是黑暗特工。他介于两者之间。他有自己的议程，那就是让美国再次伟大，让特朗普再次伟大。他有顾问，其中一些是耶稣会的人，其中一些与犹太复国主义派系有更多的联系。他还有一些很好的顾问，他们都与积极的军方有联系。所以他有时听一边，有时听另一边，根据什么是最符合他自身利益的。
Debra:And what about Qanon–spreading light or spreading deception?
Debra:那么Qanon传播光明或传播欺骗呢？
Cobra:It is not the highest purpose to answer this question.
柯博拉:这不是回答这个问题的最高目的。
Debra:OK.Let me ask you about MIT just launching location-tracking technology for coronavirus patients and those they interact with,which brings up privacy concerns in the name of public health,similar to the monitoring and surveillance that has been happening in China to a frightening degree.Are these measures helpful in stopping the virus or is the purpose to bring the world one step closer to becoming a mass surveillance state?
Debra:好的。让我来问问你们，麻省理工学院(MIT)刚刚为冠状病毒患者及其接触者推出了定位跟踪技术(location-trackingtechnology)，这以公共卫生的名义引发了隐私方面的担忧，类似于在中国已经发生到惊人程度的监控和监视。这些措施是有助于阻止病毒蔓延，还是旨在使世界更接近成为一个大规模监控国家？
Cobra:Again,this is a double-edged sword.Yes,this kind of tracking can help stop the virus and save lives,but if done from the wrong motivation,it can lead to greater control and surveillance.
柯博拉:再说一遍，这是一把双刃剑。是的，这种追踪可以帮助阻止病毒并拯救生命，但是如果出于错误的动机，它可以导致更大的控制和监视。
Debra:People are talking about 10 days of darkness with the internet and media shutting down;is this true?Do we have a proximate date for this?Is this one of the signs before the Event?
Debra:人们在谈论互联网和媒体关闭后的10天的黑暗;这是真的吗？我们有大致的日期吗？这是赛前的标志之一吗？
Cobra:I have received many reports from people claiming this,but my high intel sources are not confirming this.So according to my sources,this will not happen.
柯博拉:我已经收到很多人的报告声称这一点，但我的高情报来源不能证实这一点。所以根据我的消息来源，这不会发生。
Debra:Ben Fulford states that Project Blue Beam is in the works for a last attempt fake Armageddon show.Do you see this happening?
Debra:本·富尔福德说，蓝色光束计划正在进行最后一次伪造世界末日秀的尝试。你觉得这会发生吗？
Cobra:No.There are people who have plans,factions that would like to do this,but it is not technically viable.The Light Forces have too much power and too many resources to prevent this from happening.So it's not realistic.I am not expecting this.
柯博拉:没有。有些人有计划，有些派系想要这么做，但是这在技术上是不可行的。光明势力有太多的力量和资源来阻止这一切的发生。所以这是不现实的。我没想到会这样。
Debra:There have been earthquakes in unusual areas recently–are these natural or due to clearing of underground bases?What is the current status of these bases and the Chimera?
Debra:最近在一些不寻常的地区发生了地震——这些地震是自然发生的，还是因为地下基地的清除？这些基地和奇美拉的现状如何？
Cobra:In certain cases,it is clearing of underground bases.In other instances,it is a lot of stress to the energy field and consequently a lot of stress at tectonic plates.The Chimera group is directly involved in the quantum war and they are losing,it was one of their main offensives in the last few months and they're losing quite much,especially the last few weeks.I will not comment further on that.
柯博拉:在某些情况下，它是清除地下基地。在其他情况下，它是一个很大的压力场的能量场，因此很大的压力在构造板块。奇美拉直接参与了量子战争，他们正在失败，这是他们在过去几个月的主要攻势之一，他们正在失去很多，特别是最后几周。我不会对此做进一步的评论。
Debra:OK.We know that 5G seriously compromises the immune system,playing a critical role in this pandemic plan.In reference to the 5G technology being installed through Tesla star link,is this actually going ahead,and if so,can we counteract it?How are we going to be able to manage these harmful frequencies being beamed at the planet?
Debra:好的。我们知道5G会严重损害免疫系统，在这场大流行计划中扮演着关键角色。关于通过特斯拉星际链路安装的5G技术，这真的在进行吗?如果是的话，我们能抵消它吗？我们如何能够管理这些对地球发射的有害频率？
Cobra:Yes,this plan is being implemented to a certain degree.The dark forces are making some progress in installing those 5G networks on the surface and in orbit.But the Light Forces are also developing technology to counteract it directly.So again,it's a war.
柯博拉:是的，这个计划正在一定程度上得到实施。黑暗势力正在地面和轨道上安装5G网络方面取得一些进展。但是光明势力也在开发直接对抗它的技术。所以，这又是一场战争。
Debra:Is it possible for us to counteract 5G by burying Cintamani stones?
Debra:我们有没有可能通过埋藏如意宝珠来抵消5G呢？
Cobra:Cintamani stones can strengthen your immune system and your energy field,so indirectly they would help to a certain degree against 5G,but it's not a technology to stop 5G.
柯博拉:如意宝珠可以增强你的免疫系统和能量场，所以间接地，他们将有助于在一定程度上对抗5G，但它不是一种阻止5G的技术。
Debra:You have mentioned in the past that the Cathars used Cintamani stones to open portals.Can you explain why they were doing this and what purpose those portals served?
Debra:你曾经提到过，清洁派教徒用如意宝珠打开门户。你能解释一下他们为什么这么做吗?这些传送门的目的是什么？
Cobra:Some of the highly initiated,those Cathars who were initiated to higher grades of their order and some of the Templars who were also initiated into the Goddess mysteries,used this to communicate with non-physical positive ascended beings and also ascended Goddesses,such as Goddess Isis.They were using Cintamani stones to create a portal to connect the physical plane with higher dimensions and they were quite successful sometimes.
柯博拉:一些高度被启蒙的清洁派教徒，那些被启蒙到更高等级的圣殿教徒，以及一些也被启蒙进入神秘女神的圣殿教徒，利用这个来与非物质积极的扬升存有和扬升女神交流，比如女神伊希斯。他们使用如意宝珠创造了一个连接物理平面和更高维度的入口，他们有时相当成功。
Debra:Would you suggest that members of the Sisterhood of the Rose use their stones to open portals like this?
Debra:你是否建议蔷薇圣女团的成员用她们的石头打开这样的入口？
Cobra:If they're capable and they are skilled enough,yes.
柯博拉:如果他们有能力而且技术熟练的话，是的。
Debra:What skills would be required to do this?
Debra:要做到这一点需要什么技能？
Cobra:First they would need to have enough understanding,both intuitively and mentally,of how this kind of portal works.This is advanced work,it's not for everybody.
柯博拉:首先，他们需要对这种传送门的工作原理有足够的了解，不管是直觉上还是心理上。这是高级工作，并不适合每个人。
Debra:In the past you mentioned that Cintamani stones are being positioned into dance floors around the planet in order to help facilitate the contact experience with positive ETs within the mainstream rave culture.Can you explain how that works?Are dancers able to have this contact when dancing in a trance state?
Debra:过去你提到过，如意宝珠被放置在环绕地球的舞蹈地板上，以帮助促进与主流锐舞文化中的积极外星人的接触体验。你能解释一下这是怎么回事吗？当舞者在恍惚的状态下跳舞时，能够有这种接触吗？
Cobra:Actually,yes.There was a project when certain amounts of Cintamani stones were placed in sacred geometry patterns around the dance floors at certain trance parties and people were having contact experiences with positive extraterrestrial beings as a result of that field.
柯博拉:事实上，是的。曾经有一个项目，在某些恍惚的聚会上，一定数量的如意宝珠被放置在舞池周围的神圣几何图案中，人们因此有了与外星人接触的经历。
Debra:Interesting.Does dancing increase your ability to connect?
Debra:有意思。跳舞会增加你的交流能力吗？
Cobra:It can.
柯博拉:可以。
Debra:Now that we are getting incrementally a closer to the Event,are there additional things we can do with our Cintamani stones to add to their effectiveness,such as pairing them up with other powerful stones?
Debra:现在我们正在逐步接近这个事件，我们可以用我们的圣石做一些额外的事情来增加它们的有效性吗，比如把它们和其他强大的石头组合起来？
Cobra:That is not necessary.If you have your guidance,you can do it,but it is not in the primary goal of a Cintamani stone.
柯博拉:没有必要。如果你有你的引导，你可以做到，但是这不是如意宝珠的首要目标。
Debra:Their primary goal is purification?
Debra:他们的主要目标是净化？
Cobra:The primary goal of a Cintamani stone is to be your own personal stone to connect with your higher self,to assist your own ascension process,to melt your implants.For mission work,you can plant your stones in positions in a planetary energy grid in the ground.
柯博拉:如意宝珠的主要目标是成为你自己的个人石头，与你的更高自我连接，协助你自己的提升过程，融化你的植入物。对于任务工作，你可以将你的石头放置在地面行星能量网格的位置上。
Debra:Do you suggest having a personal stone as well as planting in the ground as a grid?
Debra:你是否建议在地面上种植一块私人石头作为格子？
Cobra:Yes.
柯博拉:是的。
Debra:Speaking of the Event,I'd like to ask you a few questions in reference to that.A few months ago you said that the Betelgeuse star in the Orion constellation is dimming and that this is a good indicator that we are close to the breakthrough.Yet scientists have now said it looks like the dimming has stopped.What is the update with it?
Debra:说到这件事，我想问你几个关于这件事的问题。几个月前，你说猎户座中的参宿四星正在变暗，这是一个很好的信号，表明我们正在接近突破。然而，科学家们现在表示，这种变暗现象似乎已经停止。它的更新是什么？
Cobra:Yes,the dimming has stopped.It was just one phase before the final Supernova explosion,but it was a good sign that the time of duality is over.
柯博拉:是的，调光停止了。这只是超新星爆发前的一个阶段，但这是二元性时代结束的一个好兆头。
Debra:And so stopping the dimming is not a negative sign?
Debra:
所以停止变暗不是一个负面信号？
Cobra:No,it means it just passed a certain phase and we're entering the next phase.
柯博拉:不，这意味着它只是通过了一个特定的阶段，我们正在进入下一个阶段。
Debra:Good.In our last meditation in January we were fortunate enough to push us over the threshold into the next phase of the Compression Breakthrough,the Bubble Rising subphase of the nucleation phase.This phase has exponential growth that culminates to a boiling point,in our case,the Event.We are definitely experiencing the"end time madness"of this phase,but how can we instead experience more growth of Bubbles of Heaven in our lives?
Debra:很好。在我们一月份的最后一次冥想中，我们很幸运地把我们推入了压缩突破的下一个阶段，成核阶段的气泡上升亚阶段。这一阶段的指数增长达到了顶峰，在我们的例子中，这就是事件。我们肯定正在经历这个阶段的"末日疯狂"，但是我们如何能够在我们的生活中体验到更多的天堂泡沫的成长呢？
Cobra:For Bubble of Heaven to be experienced,you need to go to nature away from people,because now the vast majority of the surface population is completely enmeshed in this pandemic drama.A lot of fears and programs are being triggered.You need to be at least 30 yards away from the nearest human being to experience Bubbles of Heaven.Extreme social distancing is needed if you wish to experience Bubbles of Heaven right now.
柯博拉:为了体验天堂泡泡，你需要远离人类去大自然，因为现在绝大多数地表人口完全陷入这场大流行的戏剧。许多恐惧和程序正在被触发。你需要离最近的人至少30码（27.4米）远才能体验到天堂的气泡。如果你现在想体验天堂的泡沫，那么极端的社会距离是必要的。
Debra:I'm glad you mentioned 30 yards because I was going to ask,if you're in a busy city could you go into a city park,but chances are there'll be lots of people there,so you're suggesting going someplace where you're 30 yards away from other people?
Debra:我很高兴你提到30码，因为我想问的是，如果你在一个繁忙的城市，你能不能去一个城市公园，但那里可能会有很多人，所以你建议去一个离其他人30码远的地方？
Cobra:At least.
柯博拉:至少。
Debra:Excellent advice.Can you give us an idea how quickly we are moving through this phase and how long it might last?People are asking,how long can we expect the end time madness to go on?Are we still right before the dawn of the new Golden Age?
Debra:好建议。你能告诉我们这个阶段的进展有多快，可能会持续多久吗？人们在问，我们还能指望末日的疯狂持续多久？我们是否仍然处在新的黄金时代的黎明之前？
Cobra:I would not give any dates or any time frames because this is actually a question when the Event will happen,which of course,I cannot answer.I think by describing this Bubble Rising phase,we have a pretty good understanding of where we are in the liberation process.
柯博拉:我不会给出任何日期或时间框架，因为这实际上是一个事件何时发生的问题，当然，我无法回答。我认为通过描述这个泡沫的上升阶段，我们已经很好地理解了我们在解放过程中的位置。
Debra:Has the coronavirus pandemic slowed this phase down?Will a successful meditation on April 4/5 speed this phase up?
Debra:冠状病毒大流行是否延缓了这一阶段的进展?4月4日/5日的成功冥想是否会加速这一阶段的进展？
Cobra:Actually the coronavirus pandemic has accelerated the process towards the Event because the Light Forces in their effort to stop the virus have accelerated the clearing of the plasma plane so much that the Event will basically happen sooner than expected.
柯博拉:实际上，冠状病毒的流行已经加速了这一事件的进程，因为光明势力在阻止病毒的努力中已经加速了血浆层的清除，以至于这一事件基本上会比预期的更早发生。
Debra:Oh wonderful!And I'm sure our meditation will help that along as well!
Debra:哦，太好了!我相信我们的冥想也会对此有所帮助！
Cobra:Yes,yes.
柯博拉:是的，是的。
Debra:In the notes for the Ascension Conference in Taipei last year,it indicates that in addition to the toplet bombs being removed,the surface population needs to be ready before the Event can happen.What kind of readiness is needed and does it have to do with this upcoming meditation?
Debra:在去年台北举行的扬升会议的记录中，它表明，除了正在拆除的上层炸弹外，地表人口需要在事件发生之前做好准备。需要什么样的准备，这和即将到来的冥想有什么关系？
Cobra:Actually,the surface population had achieved this readiness with this global quarantine training.This training,this experience,has proved that the surface population is ready.So when everything else is ready,the surface population will be able to handle the Event—actually will be able to handle the Event better than it was originally expected,so this is the good news as a result of all those mass lockdowns around the planet.
柯博拉:实际上，通过这次全球隔离训练，地面人口已经达到了这种准备状态。这种训练，这种经验，已经证明地表人口已经准备好了。因此，当一切准备就绪，地表人口将能够应对这一事件ーー实际上将能够比最初预期的更好地应对这一事件，所以这是全球所有大规模封锁的结果。
Debra:Wow,yay humanity!Do the Light Forces conduct a psychological assessment of each lightworker or human being?And if this assessment is not satisfactory,will it affect the Event/ascension timeline?Or,as you just said,we were sort of proving ourselves as being ready?
Debra:哇，人性真好！光明势力是否对每个光之工作者或人类进行心理评估？如果这个评估不令人满意，它会影响事件/提升时间线吗？或者，就像你刚才说的，我们在某种程度上证明自己已经准备好了？
Cobra:I would say the behavior of key lightworkers in key moments can definitely influence the timeline quite much.It has been proven many times in the past.Certain people have drastically improved the situation,while certain people who could have improved the situation have,to put it mildly,completely screwed up.So both things did happen a lot.Light Forces,of course,have psychological evaluations of key people.They have to constantly adapt their plans,certain aspects of their plans because most of their plans are not dependent on the surface population,but certain aspects of them are.They need to evaluate and constantly adapt their plans regarding the actions of certain key people to a certain degree.
柯博拉:我想说，关键的光之工作者在关键时刻的行为肯定会对时间线产生相当大的影响。这在过去已经被证明了很多次。有些人已经彻底改善了这种状况，而有些人本来可以改善这种状况，说得委婉一点，却彻底搞砸了。所以这两件事都发生了很多次。当然，光明势力会对关键人物进行心理评估。他们必须不断调整他们的计划，他们计划的某些方面，因为他们的大多数计划并不依赖于地表人口，但他们的某些方面是。他们需要对某些关键人物的行动进行评估，并在一定程度上不断调整自己的计划。
Debra:Will some starseeds and lightworkers be going up to ships temporarily for training and healing prior to the Event?
Debra:会不会有一些星际种子和光之工作者临时到飞船上去接受事件之前的训练和治疗？
Cobra:Not physically,but in your dreams.you might have a nice experience on the motherships already.
柯博拉:不是身体上的，但是在你的梦里。你可能已经在母舰上有一个不错的经历了。
Debra:How is it determined who will have these experiences?
Debra:它是如何决定谁会有这些经历的？
Cobra:Those who are ready and those who will,of course,assist in the plan of the planetary liberation.This is not a curious thing.It's mission-oriented.
柯博拉:那些已经准备好的和那些将会，当然，协助行星解放计划的人。这并不奇怪。它是以使命为导向的。
Debra:If this happened to us,would we have recollection of this happening?
Debra:如果这发生在我们身上，我们还会记得这一切吗？
Cobra:Depending on the case.Some people would have recollections,some would not.Certain aspects of memory would be removed before you come back into the physical body for security purposes.
柯博拉:视情况而定。有些人会回忆，有些人不会。为了安全起见，在你回到物理身体之前，记忆的某些方面会被移除。
Debra:A lot of people are having dreams about being on ships or visions.
Debra:很多人都梦见自己在船上或者看到幻象。
Cobra:Exactly,yes.
柯博拉:没错，是的。
Debra:I'd like to ask you about ascension.Does this window still close in 2025?
Debra:我想问问你扬升的事。这扇窗户到2025年还会关上吗？
Cobra:As I said,the Event is expected to happen before the end of 2025.That is the goal.
柯博拉:正如我所说的，这个事件预计将在2025年底之前发生。这是我们的目标。
Debra:The Event,but not necessarily Ascension.
Debra:事件，但不一定是扬升。
Cobra:Ascension is a process.It is not something that would happen overnight.
柯博拉:扬升是一个过程，不是一夜之间就能实现的。
Debra:Right.Is the plan still to have three waves of ascension?
Debra:是的。计划还是要有三波扬升吗？
Cobra:Yes.
柯博拉:是的。
Debra:How long after the event will the first wave occur?
Debra:事件发生多久后第一波会发生？
Cobra:It is expected,I would say,one or two years after the Event.
柯博拉:预计，我会说，一两年后的事件。
Debra:I know we're all in the Ascension process right now,but you're saying some of these waves could potentially happen after 2025?
Debra:我知道我们现在都在扬升的进程中，但是你是说有些波可能在2025年之后发生？
Cobra:Yes,it's possible.
柯博拉:是的，有可能。
Debra:Is there anything we can do to speed that up closer?
Debra:我们能不能做点什么来加快速度？
Cobra:As I have said,what is important now is to participate in mass meditations.It is also important,especially for the lightworkers and lightwarriors,is to cooperate and don't fight with each other.
柯博拉:正如我所说的，现在重要的是参与大规模的冥想。合作也很重要，特别是对于光之工作者和光战士来说，合作而不是互相争斗。
Of course,I have repeated that hundreds and hundreds of times.Many are not listening to this,so I don't know even why I should answer questions like this anymore.
当然，我已经重复了成百上千次。很多人都不听这个，所以我甚至不知道为什么我还要回答这样的问题。
Debra:Ha,right?Is there anything lightworkers can do on a daily basis to help manifest the Event timeline,to prepare themselves for the Event,for ascension?You mentioned going in nature,meditating—is there anything else you can suggest?
Debra:哈，对吧？光之工作者每天能做些什么来帮助显化事件时间线，为事件，为扬升做好准备？你提到去大自然，冥想ーー你还有什么建议吗？
Cobra:I would say listen to their higher guidance and really act upon it.Do not have just a theoretical concept.Really connect with your higher self,and when you get your guidance,do it.
柯博拉:我要说的是倾听他们更高层次的指引，并真正付诸行动。不要只有一个理论概念。真正与你的高我联系起来，当你得到你的引导时，就去做吧。
Debra:What about transmuting our fears and shadows?That work is quite important to do right now,right?
Debra:那改变我们的恐惧和阴影呢?那项工作现在很重要，对吧？
Cobra:Yes.Regarding transmuting shadows,I would say be sincere with yourself.Do not lie to yourself.Admit things to yourself,and then you will have the opportunity to transmute it.
柯博拉:是的。关于转化的影子，我想说的是对自己要真诚。不要欺骗自己。对自己承认一些事情，然后你就有机会改变它。
Debra:How do we continue to hold the light if we are doing deep trauma healing work?
Debra:如果我们在做深度创伤治疗工作，我们如何继续保持光明？
Cobra:Actually,as a result of deep trauma healing work,more light always comes.So when you're in the middle of a clearing process,it might feel that everything is dark and there is no hope and there is no light.But after you just persevere and you are just a witness to the process and you don't identify yourself with the process and just persevere,you will discover that each time you clear one layer of trauma,more light is present within you.
柯博拉:实际上，由于深度创伤愈合的结果，总是会有更多的光线出现。因此，当你处于一个清理过程中，你可能会觉得一切都是黑暗的，没有希望，没有光明。但是当你坚持下去，你只是这个过程的见证者，你不认同这个过程，只是坚持下去，你会发现，每当你清除一层创伤，你的内心就会有更多的光明。
Debra:What about if you have repressed memories of trauma?Is it necessary for those memories to be revealed to fully heal?
Debra:如果你有被压抑的创伤记忆呢？是否有必要让这些记忆被完全揭示以治愈？
Cobra:I would say a certain critical mass of memory needs to be given back.I will not say every particular detail,but you need to have a basic understanding of your timeline of how your life went and what happened.
柯博拉:我要说的是，一定数量的临界记忆需要被还回去。我不会说每一个细节，但是你需要对你的时间线有一个基本的了解，你的生活是如何过去的，发生了什么。
Debra:Is there a way to access some of these repressed memories?
Debra:有没有什么方法可以进入这些被压抑的记忆？
Cobra:Yes,there are many ways to access them,but I will not go into detail.This is something for a qualified therapist to discuss.
柯博拉:是的，有很多方法可以访问它们，但我不会详细说明。这是一个合格的治疗师可以讨论的问题。
Debra:OK,I understand.This question was received several times,and I would like to ask it since my mother recently transitioned.Are things less challenging now for the human souls on the non-physical planes since the clearance of negative entities on those planes has been accelerated?What happens to those who die before the Event?
Debra:
好吧，我明白了。这个问题已经被接受过好几次了，我想问的是，自从我母亲最近过世以来。对非物质层上的人类灵魂来说，现在的事情是不是变得不那么具有挑战性了，因为那些非物质层上的负面实体已经被加速清除了？在事件发生前死去的人怎么办？
Cobra:Yes,conditions on higher planes have improved.It is not as dark as it was.So for those who have transitioned from the physical existence,now things are getting progressively better.
柯博拉:是的，高层等离子的状况有所改善。现在没有以前那么黑暗了。所以，对于那些已经脱离物质生活的人来说，现在情况正在逐步好转。
Debra:Are they going back into the reincarnation cycle or are they kind of being held until the Event?
Debra:
他们是回到了轮回周期，还是一直被扣留到事件发生?
Cobra:I would say a small percentage of them chooses to incarnate again or they are tricked/persuaded to incarnate again,depending on their position.But most of them are staying on higher planes,waiting for the transition to occur.
柯博拉:我会说他们中的一小部分选择再次化身或者他们被欺骗/说服再次化身，这取决于他们的位置。但是他们中的大多数都停留在更高的层面上，等待着转变的发生。
Debra:OK,wonderful.Many people are experiencing physical problems.They tend to feel tired or emotionally out of control,some have heart palpitations or insomnia.Are these symptoms of energy cleanup before ascension,or are they attacks?What can we do to deal with these issues?
Debra:好的，太好了。许多人正在经历身体问题。他们往往感到疲倦或情绪失控，有些人有心悸或失眠。这些是扬升前能量清理的症状，还是攻击？我们能做些什么来处理这些问题？
Cobra:It's a combination of all of this.There are still implants,biochips,scalar technology,and entities.But there's also a purification process taking place,so all this has an impact on the physical body.Again,one of the keys here is to spend some time in nature because then you can reconnect with the pure crystalline energy and can help both your energy field and your physical body.
柯博拉:这是所有这一切的结合。现在仍然有植入、生物芯片、标量技术和实体。但是也有一个净化过程正在进行，所以这一切都会对身体产生影响。再一次，这里的关键之一是花一些时间在自然中，因为这样你可以重新连接纯粹的水晶能量，并且可以帮助你的能量场和你的物质身体。
Debra:So get outside people!I know we've talked about a lot today,but I just have a few more questions regarding Sisterhood of the Rose.One question that has come up very often is how can Sisterhood of the Rose groups continue to hold weekly meetings if their area is in lockdown?
Debra:那就到外面去，人们！我知道我们今天谈了很多，但我还有几个关于《蔷薇圣女团》的问题。一个经常出现的问题是，如果蔷薇圣女团的所在地区已经封锁，她们如何继续举行每周例会？
Cobra:Of course now in a situation like this,you cannot have physical things obviously.But what can we do?We still can have meetings on Skype,Zoom,or whatever you're using to connect.
柯博拉:当然，在这种情况下，你显然不能拥有物质的东西。但是我们能做什么呢？我们仍然可以通过Skype、Zoom或者其他你用来连接的方式开会。
Debra:So doing these virtual meetings,is there something additional we can do to keep our impact strong and maintain the Goddess vortex?
Debra:那么，在这些虚拟会议上，我们还能做些什么来保持我们的影响力和维持女神漩涡呢？
Cobra:You can use the same protocol as for the physical meetings.
柯博拉:你可以使用相同的协议作为身体会议。
Debra:OK.And we'll still be able to keep the vortex active and still continue to do our work?
Debra:好的。我们仍然可以保持漩涡活跃，并继续我们的工作吗？
Cobra:Yes,yes.
柯博拉:是的，是的。
Debra:What can Sisterhood of the Rose groups do to stabilize the most positive ascension timeline and terminate the coronavirus outbreak?
Debra:蔷薇圣女团能做些什么来稳定最积极的扬升时间线并终止冠状病毒的爆发？
Cobra:What is necessary for the participants is to invoke Goddess energy.Not just in the moment of meditation,but also in daily life to spread positive Goddess principles wherever they go.
柯博拉:参与者需要的是调用女神能量。不仅在冥想的时刻，而且在日常生活中传播积极的女神原则，无论他们走到哪里。
Debra:Oh I love that,I love that!Are there any particular Ascended masters or Goddesses we should call upon to assist?
Debra:哦，我喜欢那个，我喜欢那个！有没有什么特别的扬升大师或女神我们应该去帮助的？
Cobra:It is up to you.
柯博拉:这取决于你。
Debra:OK,we have access to all of them,so you're saying if you have a personal connection to call upon those.What can we do to attract Soul families to us in this current world…or will this prove to continue to be a challenge until after the Event?
Debra:好吧，我们可以访问所有这些网站，所以你的意思是如果你有私人联系可以访问这些网站。在这个世界上，我们能做些什么来吸引灵魂家族来到我们身边......或者这会一直是一个挑战，直到事件发生之后？
Cobra:You can use the Goddess vortex meditation which can also attract your soulmates and soul families.But unfortunately before the Event,many of those people are compromised.They are not awakened and they are under control.It proves to be a challenge until the moment of the Event to a great degree.
柯博拉:你可以使用女神漩涡冥想，这也可以吸引你的灵魂伴侣和灵魂家族。但不幸的是，在事件发生之前，这些人中的许多人都妥协了。他们没有被唤醒，他们受到控制。这被证明是一个挑战，直到事件发生的那一刻。
Debra:And one last question,Cobra.You have said that,"The world as we know it has ended."What words of encouragement can you share that would decrease our fear regarding current—and potential future—challenges and chaos that we are facing during this end time madness,words of hope and inspiration?
Debra:最后一个问题，柯博拉。你说过，"我们所知道的世界已经结束了。"你能分享哪些鼓励的话语来减少我们对当前和潜在的未来的恐惧，减少我们在这个末日疯狂时期所面临的挑战和混乱，减少希望和鼓舞的话语？
Cobra:You can see this current epidemic situation as a global purification process.Humanity as a whole has to face their fears.Humanity was almost completely in denial about almost everything.What is happening now is acknowledging the truth.Humanity is facing the mirror which is an extremely healing experience,although it is quite challenging,the result of this will be a much healthier society.The result of this will be the foundation will be laid for the real grounded,balanced Age of Aquarius,and this is what we all want.
柯博拉:你可以把目前的流行情况看作是一个全球性的净化过程。人类作为一个整体必须面对他们的恐惧。人类几乎完全否认一切。现在正在发生的是承认真相。人类正面对着一面镜子，这是一次极具疗愈性的经历，尽管它是相当具有挑战性的，但其结果将是一个更加健康的社会。这样做的结果将是为真正扎根、平衡的水瓶座时代打下基础，这也是我们所有人都想要的。
Debra:Absolutely!And again,our meditation is coming up April 4th and 5th,check your time zone for that.Cobra,we're excited to reach critical mass—actually let's reach a million people for this meditation,yes?
Debra:当然！再说一次，我们的冥想将在4月4日和5日到来，请检查你的时区。柯博拉，我们很高兴达到临界质量ーー实际上让我们达到一百万人参与这个冥想，好吗？
Cobra:Yes,let's reach one million people,why not?Everything is possible.One million people meditating,that will be awesome.This will be something that the Light Forces will see as a sign,a beautiful sign,that we are ready for the next step.
柯博拉:是的，让我们达到一百万人，为什么不呢？一切皆有可能。一百万人在冥想，那会很棒的。这将是光明势力看到的一个标志，一个美丽的标志，表明我们已经为下一步做好了准备。
Debra:Absolutely,and we can play a very,very important role during this very important time in the history of the universe!
Debra:当然，而且我们可以在宇宙历史的这个重要时刻扮演一个非常非常重要的角色！
Cobra:Yes,Exactly.
柯博拉:是的，没错。
Debra:Alright well,thank you so much today Cobra,we have enjoyed this very much and appreciate all of the information and…Victory of the Light,thank you!
Debra:好吧，今天非常感谢你，柯博拉，我们非常喜欢这个，并感谢所有的信息和...光的胜利，谢谢你！
Cobra:Victory of the Light!
柯博拉:光的胜利！
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Finally,here is a short promotional video for this meditation created by the Sisterhood of the Rose.
最后，这里有一个简短的宣传视频，关于这个由蔷薇圣女团创造的冥想。
视频：https://youtu.be/eq7uIDp8m6g
Victory of the Light!
光的胜利！
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